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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Our oline is not going to be completely healthy. Not talking about TA here but Unger. So will we be relying on defense to not fatigue for these low scoring starts on offense?...

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Old 07-27-2017, 12:57 PM   #1
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What are we relying on the first few weeks?

Our oline is not going to be completely healthy. Not talking about TA here but Unger. So will we be relying on defense to not fatigue for these low scoring starts on offense?
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Old 07-27-2017, 01:11 PM   #2
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Re: What are we relying on the first few weeks?

Unger will be healthy in about a month. Pointless topic.
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Old 07-27-2017, 01:16 PM   #3
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Re: What are we relying on the first few weeks?

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Our oline is not going to be completely healthy. Not talking about TA here but Unger. So will we be relying on defense to not fatigue for these low scoring starts on offense?
Two false assumptions here:

1. Unger won't be back. All reports have him available for the first game of the season. Unger is a veteran. He really doesn't need training camp and preseason games to be ready for the season.

2. Low scoring starts. There is no evidence between O-Line changes and low scoring on the offense.

Given that both of the presumptions are false, there is really nothing to discuss.

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Old 07-27-2017, 06:35 PM   #4
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1. Unger won't be back. All reports have him available for the first game of the season. Unger is a veteran. He really doesn't need training camp and preseason games to be ready for the season.
Sorry but you are wrong here. I'm talking from a experience from my own playing career stretching more than 15 years. Unger is a veteran so he needs LESS snaps than a rookie or younger player but he needs them. You need snaps to get ready and just get the small details down with the guys next to you and to really get up to speed.
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Doom and freaking gloom all the time!!

The season hasn't even started yet and you're already laying down.

Remember when Kelvin Benjamin went down and the Panthers looked lost, then they went 15-1 and made the super bowl.
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:17 PM   #6
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Re: What are we relying on the first few weeks?

Orlando Franklin looks like a good signing if he stays healthy. He can play left guard so Peat can slide to left tackle. I think we'll be fine.
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Two false assumptions here:

1. Unger won't be back. All reports have him available for the first game of the season. Unger is a veteran. He really doesn't need training camp and preseason games to be ready for the season.

2. Low scoring starts. There is no evidence between O-Line changes and low scoring on the offense.

Given that both of the presumptions are false, there is really nothing to discuss.

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WRONG. If Unger was out the first few weeks we would have a hard time scoring against the defenses we face the first three weeks. Oline protection does matter, especially the center. Did you see 2014?

And it is not conclusive Unger will be back week 1. What I don't get is why are we signing these FAs if there is not a issue here?
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Orlando Franklin looks like a good signing if he stays healthy. He can play left guard so Peat can slide to left tackle. I think we'll be fine.

And that's another point. Is Ram not ready?
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Doom and freaking gloom all the time!!

The season hasn't even started yet and you're already laying down.

Remember when Kelvin Benjamin went down and the Panthers looked lost, then they went 15-1 and made the super bowl.
Who says doom and gloom? I just asked a question assuming the OL was gonna start the season with two non-starters. And you are comparing a receiver to a olineman. And Carolina had one heck of a easy schedule that year.
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And that's another point. Is Ram not ready?
Never rely solely on a rookie. Especially protecting the QBs blind side. At least not out of the gate. Franklin is a guard. And Kelemente, if he can start week one, isn't exactly the creme of the crop. Franklin is a better option. And if anything, good depth.
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