Lewis, Lasco or Bighill?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-29-2017, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

if you have them on your practice squad you can make them active on your roster so another team can't scoop them up.

But that is true for all 320 players on all PS for all teams. The point I continue to push is that the Saints have no more rights to their PS players than any other team. All 32 PS are a league resource. The only advantage you have with your 10 PS players is that you see them everyday and they practice with your organization. But all 32 teams have tape on all players in training camp. That includes all 320 PS players and the nearly 800 other street free agents that'll be released at the end of the week. It the pro scouting department's job to have targeted players in each position that can be signed if the situation arises.

The downfall and risk is that you must drop someone off your active roster to make room. Which means the player you waive or cut to make room will be able to sign with any other team if they make it through the waiver wire and if they don't be picked up you're still liable for the contract against your cap.

Exactly. But of course the upside is that resigning players after week one means that their contract isn't guaranteed for the year. So no team is going to be claiming iffy players off waivers and putting them on their 53 this weekend unless they have an actual need to fill.

In order to make the PS the player will be waived and if no team pick them up then the saints can sign to PS. Players I can't see making it through waivers are Victor & Muhammad

Right on the mark on both accounts. So you have to start asking questions about their competition: Loewen and Lasko. Would either of them clear waivers?

SFIAH

|Mitch| · 08-29-2017, 09:51 AM

Adam Bighill Athletic Interception \| Saints Defensive Lineman \| Preseason Week 2 - YouTube

ChrisXVI · 08-29-2017, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Adam Bighill Athletic Interception | Saints Defensive Lineman | Preseason Week 2 - YouTube

That 12" vert though lol.

Barry from MS · 08-29-2017, 11:03 AM

Bighill is a good problem going forward. Only proven real-time against the scrubs from 2 pedestrian offenses so far. May not match up well with our division's 1's but has the smarts & just makes plays. Personally I'd keep Lil Bigman and slice from another position. He ain't gonna get past waivers & he'll get poached from the PS more than likely.

TLL is a lock. We're not as deep at WR as in previous years. He has proven in the regular season that he can hang as a rookie last year (3 for 43 yds vs ATL & 2 for 24 yds vs CAR). Keeper. He'll be a good one in our offense in the future.

Lasco...ehh...keep Victor over him. Run with A.P./M.I./Kamara/Victor/Kuhn at RB. I wouldn't be shocked if Edmunds slipped in over Victor though. One or the other is not gonna clear waivers or go to PS where they'll get poached.

K Major · 08-29-2017, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Lasco...ehh...keep Victor over him. Run with A.P./M.I./Kamara/Victor/Kuhn at RB. I wouldn't be shocked if Edmunds slipped in over Victor though. One or the other is not gonna clear waivers or go to PS where they'll get poached.

Victor sort of reminds me of Maurice-Jones Drew. Short, stocky and carries a lot of punch.

Barry from MS · 08-29-2017, 12:06 PM

Stature-wise yes. But MJJ had great short quickness & straight-line speed (4.39 / 40). Victor has the vision & cutting ability, just doesn't have the burst MJJ had. Hope he makes it, but Edmunds has potential, too. Good size 6' 1" 223 & speed 4.48 / 40. Looks like he can catch the ball too. IDK...2 good backs so far. Rooting for both.

st thomas · 08-29-2017, 12:10 PM

if t. lew. had sneads gekko cups he would be a lock, i'm just not sold on his hands, or mental lapses on drops which is not many though, but payton remembers every single one u do drop so?? parcels sent t lew to us and that still in my opinion is why he hangs around, i called out way before the draft that 2 guys will not make the 53 this season and t. lew is 1 and the other was marc. murphy which has been gone. but now with al the hype i'm wondering. its just amazing that the t. lew is still in one piece. he knows how to ball up.

WillMacKenzie · 08-29-2017, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That 12" vert though lol.

The Air Up There, a Bighill story.

SmashMouth · 08-29-2017, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Stature-wise yes. But MJJ had great short quickness & straight-line speed (4.39 / 40). Victor has the vision & cutting ability, just doesn't have the burst MJJ had. Hope he makes it, but Edmunds has potential, too. Good size 6' 1" 223 & speed 4.48 / 40. Looks like he can catch the ball too. IDK...2 good backs so far. Rooting for both.

Is Victor the future at FB?

Papa Voodoo · 08-29-2017, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Kikaha has looked great so far.

Agreed. But that knee. Kind of an Ellerbe situation. If he stays healthy he will be great. Bighill doesn't have that issue to contend with.

08-29-2017, 09:18 AM	#51
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Lewis, Lasco or Bighill? Originally Posted by nola_swammi if you have them on your practice squad you can make them active on your roster so another team can't scoop them up. But that is true for all 320 players on all PS for all teams. The point I continue to push is that the Saints have no more rights to their PS players than any other team. All 32 PS are a league resource. The only advantage you have with your 10 PS players is that you see them everyday and they practice with your organization. But all 32 teams have tape on all players in training camp. That includes all 320 PS players and the nearly 800 other street free agents that'll be released at the end of the week. It the pro scouting department's job to have targeted players in each position that can be signed if the situation arises. The downfall and risk is that you must drop someone off your active roster to make room. Which means the player you waive or cut to make room will be able to sign with any other team if they make it through the waiver wire and if they don't be picked up you're still liable for the contract against your cap. Exactly. But of course the upside is that resigning players after week one means that their contract isn't guaranteed for the year. So no team is going to be claiming iffy players off waivers and putting them on their 53 this weekend unless they have an actual need to fill. In order to make the PS the player will be waived and if no team pick them up then the saints can sign to PS. Players I can't see making it through waivers are Victor & Muhammad Right on the mark on both accounts. So you have to start asking questions about their competition: Loewen and Lasko. Would either of them clear waivers? SFIAH
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08-29-2017, 10:15 AM	#53
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Lewis, Lasco or Bighill? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Adam Bighill Athletic Interception \| Saints Defensive Lineman \| Preseason Week 2 - YouTube That 12" vert though lol. WillMacKenzie likes this.

08-29-2017, 11:03 AM	#54
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Lewis, Lasco or Bighill? Bighill is a good problem going forward. Only proven real-time against the scrubs from 2 pedestrian offenses so far. May not match up well with our division's 1's but has the smarts & just makes plays. Personally I'd keep Lil Bigman and slice from another position. He ain't gonna get past waivers & he'll get poached from the PS more than likely. TLL is a lock. We're not as deep at WR as in previous years. He has proven in the regular season that he can hang as a rookie last year (3 for 43 yds vs ATL & 2 for 24 yds vs CAR). Keeper. He'll be a good one in our offense in the future. Lasco...ehh...keep Victor over him. Run with A.P./M.I./Kamara/Victor/Kuhn at RB. I wouldn't be shocked if Edmunds slipped in over Victor though. One or the other is not gonna clear waivers or go to PS where they'll get poached.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lewis, Lasco or Bighill? Originally Posted by Barry from MS Lasco...ehh...keep Victor over him. Run with A.P./M.I./Kamara/Victor/Kuhn at RB. I wouldn't be shocked if Edmunds slipped in over Victor though. One or the other is not gonna clear waivers or go to PS where they'll get poached. Victor sort of reminds me of Maurice-Jones Drew. Short, stocky and carries a lot of punch.

08-29-2017, 12:06 PM	#56
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Lewis, Lasco or Bighill? Stature-wise yes. But MJJ had great short quickness & straight-line speed (4.39 / 40). Victor has the vision & cutting ability, just doesn't have the burst MJJ had. Hope he makes it, but Edmunds has potential, too. Good size 6' 1" 223 & speed 4.48 / 40. Looks like he can catch the ball too. IDK...2 good backs so far. Rooting for both.

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08-29-2017, 12:44 PM	#58
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Lewis, Lasco or Bighill? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That 12" vert though lol. The Air Up There, a Bighill story.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Lewis, Lasco or Bighill? Originally Posted by Barry from MS Stature-wise yes. But MJJ had great short quickness & straight-line speed (4.39 / 40). Victor has the vision & cutting ability, just doesn't have the burst MJJ had. Hope he makes it, but Edmunds has potential, too. Good size 6' 1" 223 & speed 4.48 / 40. Looks like he can catch the ball too. IDK...2 good backs so far. Rooting for both. Is Victor the future at FB?

08-29-2017, 02:28 PM	#60
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,628	Re: Lewis, Lasco or Bighill? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Kikaha has looked great so far. Agreed. But that knee. Kind of an Ellerbe situation. If he stays healthy he will be great. Bighill doesn't have that issue to contend with.

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