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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Snead was never a lock to be a WR 2. His role is in the slot and Thomas is the redzone's number one target; Ginn is the deep threat. Both have the best chance to get TDs. Snead has less ...

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Old 08-27-2017, 07:35 PM   #11
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Snead was never a lock to be a WR 2. His role is in the slot and Thomas is the redzone's number one target; Ginn is the deep threat. Both have the best chance to get TDs. Snead has less unless he gets faster. He's just not looked at in the redzone unless Thomas is accounted for by defenses(Denver game last year).
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Old 08-27-2017, 07:49 PM   #12
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He has more on the line than anyone else so I could see him throwing caution to the wind to make insane grabs. This is his shot to get a deal all or nothing. Jerry Rice was slow as dirt. It can be done.
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 View Post
Snead was never a lock to be a WR 2. His role is in the slot and Thomas is the redzone's number one target; Ginn is the deep threat. Both have the best chance to get TDs. Snead has less unless he gets faster. He's just not looked at in the redzone unless Thomas is accounted for by defenses(Denver game last year).
Depends on how you define your #2. Snead's not a redzone target like Thomas or a threat to score from anywhere on the field like Cooks was but he's a great possession receiver. He's the go to guy when you need a first down. Think of a Julian Edleman type role.

He had a 69% catch percentage, which is outstanding.

Cooks got a first down 38% of the times he was targeted. By comparison Snead got a first down 49% of the times he was targeted.

Cooks got targeted 13 more times than Snead but Snead made 6 more first downs.

If you look at all Snead's stats for last season, he had great numbers for a #2 and he was the third option. Most teams would've loved to get those numbers from their #2 receiver.

Touchdowns get all the glory but you also gotta have someone you can count on to move the chains.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:27 PM   #14
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Depends on how you define your #2. Snead's not a redzone target like Thomas or a threat to score from anywhere on the field like Cooks was but he's a great possession receiver. He's the go to guy when you need a first down. Think of a Julian Edleman type role.

He had a 69% catch percentage, which is outstanding.

Cooks got a first down 38% of the times he was targeted. By comparison Snead got a first down 49% of the times he was targeted.

Cooks got targeted 13 more times than Snead but Snead made 6 more first downs.

If you look at all Snead's stats for last season, he had great numbers for a #2 and he was the third option. Most teams would've loved to get those numbers from their #2 receiver.

Touchdowns get all the glory but you also gotta have someone you can count on to move the chains.
Snead is a possession receiver like Lance Moore. He has a role and almost had 1000 yards last year. I like him a lot!
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:37 PM   #15
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Regarding 's Ginn dropped passes, remember that Devery Henderson had the same reputation for dropping passes until Curtis Johnson came along. I believe Johnson is going to do the same for Ginn this year.

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He has more on the line than anyone else so I could see him throwing caution to the wind to make insane grabs. This is his shot to get a deal all or nothing. Jerry Rice was slow as dirt. It can be done.
This is just not true. Maybe not the quickest guy, but certainly Rice had solid top end speed. In his prime he was the NFLs premier deep threat and I never remember him getting caught from behind.
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Regarding 's Ginn dropped passes, remember that Devery Henderson had the same reputation for dropping passes until Curtis Johnson came along. I believe Johnson is going to do the same for Ginn this year.

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Ginn will break Curtis Johnson, lol joking of course...maybe
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This is just not true. Maybe not the quickest guy, but certainly Rice had solid top end speed. In his prime he was the NFLs premier deep threat and I never remember him getting caught from behind.
Precisely.

I remember reading a book by Bill Walsh (Building a Champion). He spoke of how in his scouting (MS Valley State) of Jerry, what separated him from most was his stride and second gear. He had never seen that type of gear in all of his days of scouting receivers . In the open field his long stride gave him functional speed to distant himself from defenders. At the same exact starting point, you never saw Rice get caught from behind. Not once.

He was far from slow.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:31 PM   #19
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Snead is a producer. Slot receivers take in the head. Literally. It's shi11y what they are doing to him. Bad for morale, too. I bet the locker room loves Willy.
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Regarding 's Ginn dropped passes, remember that Devery Henderson had the same reputation for dropping passes until Curtis Johnson came along. I believe Johnson is going to do the same for Ginn this year.

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I was ready to send Henderson packing - Curtis Johnson must be all he is said to be. Somebody sure did fix Devery.
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