Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues

AsylumGuido · 09-06-2017, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Fact is, the last 3 years, the Saints defense has been at the bottom of the league in just about everything.

The other fact is, until you don't prove it on the field when it counts, everything is just speculation.

And third, it's freaking fantasy.

And the other fact is that only two defensive players remain from two years ago and two of the three defensive coaches are new this season and the third wasn't here two years ago. Therefore, basing anything upon what happened three or two or even one year ago has very little bearing upon what will happen this year.

That is the point I was trying to make. People are lazy.

burningmetal · 09-07-2017, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Because there is an estimated 44 million people in North America that play Fantasy Football so there's an audience for that kind of stuff

You're talking about fantasy football, in general. I didn't ask why they talk about fantasy football (I don't live under a rock, bro), I asked why they think we want to watch them make selections for THEIR OWN teams. Who cares about somebody else's fantasy team?

CheramieIII · 09-07-2017, 05:36 AM

That disrespect will be gone after we beat the Vikings 27-3 and the Patriots 35-17

jeanpierre · 09-07-2017, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Being a small market team with 3 consecutive losing seasons will do that to ya.

neugey · 09-07-2017, 06:41 AM

People are often too preoccupied with what happened last season and assuming the same things will generally hold. I love especially when they talk about strength of schedule as if they are assuming teams will be as good or as bad as they were last season. Problem is, "last season" was 9-12 months ago. There is very little carry-over from last year and yet people write off teams based on last season and the teams they see on paper. Like, the Jets and Bears might be horrible this year, but it's not as sure of a thing like most experts are making it to be.

jeanpierre · 09-07-2017, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

That disrespect will be gone after we beat the Vikings 27-3 and the Patriots 35-17

Geaux, Brother Cher, Geaux!!!

CheramieIII · 09-07-2017, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Geaux, Brother Cher, Geaux!!!

That looks like me after a 12 pack on Sunday when we win! I do see Angels in robes

BusDriver · 09-07-2017, 08:35 AM

I've never played FF, just something I never got into. I will say after a 2-0 start, beating the Champs, the drums will be heard.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-07-2017, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And the other fact is that only two defensive players remain from two years ago and two of the three defensive coaches are new this season and the third wasn't here two years ago. Therefore, basing anything upon what happened three or two or even one year ago has very little bearing upon what will happen this year.

From 2 years ago, off the top of my head, Jordan, Vaccaro, Kikaha, Anthony, Breaux were on the roster, so your first "fact" isn't a fact.

Then you omitted last year... why?

We all know that things can change in the NFL from one year to the other, and players/coaches come and go... BUT, again, you have to prove it on the field of play when it counts. And it's been a long time since the Saints fielded a decent defense. And until they field a decent defense when it counts, no one is going to acknowledge them for it.

And again, it is freaking fantasy. You are getting all worked up over what freaking fantasy "analysts" say.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-07-2017, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

That disrespect will be gone after we beat the Vikings 27-3 and the Patriots 35-17

Exactly.

09-06-2017, 10:30 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Fact is, the last 3 years, the Saints defense has been at the bottom of the league in just about everything. The other fact is, until you don't prove it on the field when it counts, everything is just speculation. And third, it's freaking fantasy. And the other fact is that only two defensive players remain from two years ago and two of the three defensive coaches are new this season and the third wasn't here two years ago. Therefore, basing anything upon what happened three or two or even one year ago has very little bearing upon what will happen this year. That is the point I was trying to make. People are lazy. jeanpierre likes this.

09-07-2017, 12:23 AM	#12
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Because there is an estimated 44 million people in North America that play Fantasy Football so there's an audience for that kind of stuff You're talking about fantasy football, in general. I didn't ask why they talk about fantasy football (I don't live under a rock, bro), I asked why they think we want to watch them make selections for THEIR OWN teams. Who cares about somebody else's fantasy team? Rugby Saint II likes this.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues That disrespect will be gone after we beat the Vikings 27-3 and the Patriots 35-17 SaintFanInATLHELL, Tobias-Reiper, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Being a small market team with 3 consecutive losing seasons will do that to ya. foreverfan likes this.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,590 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues People are often too preoccupied with what happened last season and assuming the same things will generally hold. I love especially when they talk about strength of schedule as if they are assuming teams will be as good or as bad as they were last season. Problem is, "last season" was 9-12 months ago. There is very little carry-over from last year and yet people write off teams based on last season and the teams they see on paper. Like, the Jets and Bears might be horrible this year, but it's not as sure of a thing like most experts are making it to be.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues Originally Posted by CheramieIII That disrespect will be gone after we beat the Vikings 27-3 and the Patriots 35-17 Geaux, Brother Cher, Geaux!!! CheramieIII likes this.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues Originally Posted by jeanpierre Geaux, Brother Cher, Geaux!!! That looks like me after a 12 pack on Sunday when we win! I do see Angels in robes jeanpierre likes this.

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BusDriver 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ICT Kansas Posts: 183	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues I've never played FF, just something I never got into. I will say after a 2-0 start, beating the Champs, the drums will be heard.

09-07-2017, 11:21 AM	#19
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And the other fact is that only two defensive players remain from two years ago and two of the three defensive coaches are new this season and the third wasn't here two years ago. Therefore, basing anything upon what happened three or two or even one year ago has very little bearing upon what will happen this year. From 2 years ago, off the top of my head, Jordan, Vaccaro, Kikaha, Anthony, Breaux were on the roster, so your first "fact" isn't a fact. Then you omitted last year... why? We all know that things can change in the NFL from one year to the other, and players/coaches come and go... BUT, again, you have to prove it on the field of play when it counts. And it's been a long time since the Saints fielded a decent defense. And until they field a decent defense when it counts, no one is going to acknowledge them for it. And again, it is freaking fantasy. You are getting all worked up over what freaking fantasy "analysts" say.
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09-07-2017, 11:22 AM	#20
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Lack of respect for the Saints out there in some venues Originally Posted by CheramieIII That disrespect will be gone after we beat the Vikings 27-3 and the Patriots 35-17 Exactly.

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