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halloween 65 09-11-2017 09:19 PM
Re: Saints at Vikings MNF Gameday Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 763436)
Could start following Cleveland. Can always count on them...
Cleveland has a good D and actually played well. They are about 2 pieces away from being pretty good.

WillMacKenzie 09-11-2017 09:20 PM
Re: Saints at Vikings MNF Gameday Thread
 
If Payton doesn't start winning, this locker room is going to get sour real quick.

nola_swammi 09-11-2017 09:24 PM
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Well I drop the saints d off my fantasy. have faith in the players but not Allen

Tobias-Reiper 09-11-2017 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 763403)
Why on earth was Allen playing zone inside the 20 yard line? That's bad decision making.
Because Allen is not a DC.
And to think, when Allen was brought in, Jim Schwartz was available...

Danno 09-11-2017 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 763437)
Lots of junk yards last season and just about always playing from behind does that. 800 or so passing yards were from that last season but being desperate playing catch up does that. Our best O we ever had was 2013, that was electric.
We had very few junk yards last year

neugey 09-11-2017 09:31 PM
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The game has passed Payton by. We don't understand the current meta of the NFL - be fairly simple but very versatile. Lots of play action with quick passing to negate the linebackers and the defensive speed in the NFL. The Lions, Falcons and now the Vikings seem to implement this pretty well, among other teams.

Our playbook is voluminous and we are trying to win by constantly rotating offensive personnel. And then on defense where a personnel rotation/benching is needed most (Devante), we do nothing.

We are bringing a swiss army knife to a gunfight, and it seems more and more likely Payton will go down with said swiss army knife.

ChrisXVI 09-11-2017 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 763459)
The game has passed Payton by. We don't understand the current meta of the NFL - be fairly simple but very versatile. Lots of play action with quick passing to negate the linebackers and the defensive speed in the NFL. The Lions, Falcons and now the Vikings seem to implement this pretty well, among other teams.

Our playbook is voluminous and we are trying to win by constantly rotating offensive personnel. And then on defense where a personnel rotation/benching is needed most (Devante), we do nothing.

We are bringing a swiss army knife to a gunfight, and it seems more and more likely Payton will go down with said swiss army knife.
Just read a very similar opinion over at WalterFootball:

I thought Sean Payton had an awful performance. His play-calling was terribly predictable; his team ran the ball almost every single time Peterson was on the field. Payton also gave the Vikings a free touchdown right before halftime, calling two timeouts when it wasn't clear if Minnesota could convert a first down deep in its own territory. Payton also made very poor decisions in the red zone, whether it was running the ball too frequently or kicking a field goal late in the third quarter when a touchdown was needed. Payton was once known as one of the top coaches in the NFL, but it's fair to wonder if, as with Jeff Fisher, the game has passed him by.

jeanpierre 09-11-2017 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 763473)
Just read a very similar opinion over at WalterFootball:

I thought Sean Payton had an awful performance. His play-calling was terribly predictable; his team ran the ball almost every single time Peterson was on the field. Payton also gave the Vikings a free touchdown right before halftime, calling two timeouts when it wasn't clear if Minnesota could convert a first down deep in its own territory. Payton also made very poor decisions in the red zone, whether it was running the ball too frequently or kicking a field goal late in the third quarter when a touchdown was needed. Payton was once known as one of the top coaches in the NFL, but it's fair to wonder if, as with Jeff Fisher, the game has passed him by.
Didn't Fisher get appointed to the Competition Committee?!?

WillMacKenzie 09-11-2017 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 763492)
Didn't Fisher get appointed to the Competition Committee?!?
Uh oh

Rell&Gold 09-11-2017 10:27 PM
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What does "padded yards" have to do with anything in the loss


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