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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by halloween 65 Better get use to adjusting your projected record. 8-8 Nope. I never stop believing, my friend. I leave that to others....

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Old 09-12-2017, 10:02 AM   #51
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Better get use to adjusting your projected record. 8-8
Nope. I never stop believing, my friend. I leave that to others.



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Old 09-12-2017, 10:15 AM   #52
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Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings?

I hate to beat a dead horse but we must find a way to create turnovers. Strips, punching the ball out, INT's & getting off the field on 3rd down.

And I agree with the play of Anzalone, Lattimore & Tommy. He created separation from the defender on that bomb but Brees slightly over threw him, otherwise 6. Malcolm Butler can be had in the dome.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:19 AM   #53
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Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings?

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I hate to beat a dead horse but we must find a way to create turnovers. Strips, punching the ball out, INT's & getting off the field on 3rd down.

And I agree with the play of Anzalone, Lattimore & Tommy. He created separation from the defender on that bomb but Brees slightly over threw him, otherwise 6. Malcolm Butler can be had in the dome.
I just don't understand how PJ got beat so badly, that crossing route all he had to do was turn and look for the ball.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:28 AM   #54
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I just don't understand how PJ got beat so badly, that crossing route all he had to do was turn and look for the ball.
He did look tentative/hesitant but essentially PJ is a rookie.

I'm more disappointed in Dennis Allen's game approach more than anything. Pre season we saw a lot of stunts, blitzing & guys moving like their head was on fire. Our secondary made Thielan (mostly 3rd down conversions) look like Odell on crossing routes. I mean he was WIDE open on several plays.

Explain to me why you have Harris vs Diggs on those boundaries?? I just think we were out coached on defense. No way Harris should be on the field this Sunday.


Time to re group (see sig/Roman Harper quote), film study and prepare to defeat NE in the dome on a short week.

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Old 09-12-2017, 10:34 AM   #55
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He did look tentative/hesitant but essentially PJ is a rookie.

I'm more disappointed in Dennis Allen's game approach more than anything. Pre season we saw a lot of stunts, blitzing & guys moving like their head was on fire. Our secondary made Thielan (mostly 3rd down conversions) look like Odell on crossing routes. I mean he was WIDE open on several plays.

Explain to me why you have Harris vs Diggs on those boundaries?? I just think we were out coached on defense. No way Harris should be on the field this Sunday.


Time to re group (see sig/Roman Harper quote), film study and prepare to defeat NE in the dome on a short week.
Very good point about DA and Harris.

I don't understand why Harris was even out there, after Harris got beat the 50th time they should have put Lattimore against Diggs and see what he could do.

The thing that is most disappointing is we all bought into the hype and they've made me feel foolish.

I've completely lost faith in Payton, DA only has a job because they are buddies, Payton essentially wants a "yes man" and DA will never argue with him.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:10 AM   #56
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Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings?

Here's something for you guys... First Vikings offensive play of the game our defense only had 10 men on the field. We had how long to prepare for that?
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Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings?

I saw a few positives last night. Klein was definitely the best signing in the offseason! And though I was not high on the drafting of Anzelone, he is making me change my mind. I also liked the dedication to the run game. Special teams looked pretty good, too.

There are too many negatives from that game, though. If we don't get Armstead and Streif back soon, Brees is in trouble. Play calling was really strange on offense, even with the balance. It seemed they were dedicated to the running game, but then they didn't use play action off of it. They'd just motion the back out.

The Vikes called the same two plays many times and it seemed to work every time. Where was the aggression? Where were the other cornerbacks after Harris proved he couldn't cover anyone?
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Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings?

Somebody referenced the Jags earlier. They have the young & inexperienced D, too. They completely stomped a subpar Texans O (watched it), and someone coached them & told them not to use the crutch of inexperience. They were solid at D playcalling & personnel matchups where we blew chunks at them both. We have about the same experience & talent on D, but we let Bradford throw all over us with a patchwork O Line (seriously?) plus continually had Harris vs Diggs (seriously?).

I'll give them a very thin pass, but if we're seeing this 3 out of the next 4, heads should roll come playoff time cause we'll be sitting at the house.

The inexperience excuse is getting old, precisely why it is THE #1 worst excuse.

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Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings?

Defensive play calling. We were in zone long past the point when it was obviously not working. We needed to blitz more. The 4 man rush wasn't getting it done. Bradford was too comfortable in the pocket. Playing Harris over Moore was a mistake. Keeping Harris in the game was just stupid. Dennis Allen completely blew it.
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