I Just Can't Understand This

AllSaints · 09-17-2017, 07:31 PM

Well I wish I could find some sign of hope but I simply can't.... surely it can't get any worse ??

The Dude · 09-17-2017, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Week 3: "must win" yeesh

I said it early on. Week 1 was a must win. This team has seen a lot of defeat the past several years and they have to be getting tired of it mentally. Yes I know there are new players but that losing and desperate vibe flows through the locker room. they need to feel a win. If we can win the next two AND show improvement and cohesiveness we may just still have a shot. Lose next week and it's over .
Payton has wasted the latter half of a HOF QB career. He is the one common denominator. He needs to go.

saintfan · 09-17-2017, 07:54 PM

spkb25 · 09-17-2017, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I said it early on. Week 1 was a must win. This team has seen a lot of defeat the past several years and they have to be getting tired of it mentally. Yes I know there are new players but that losing and desperate vibe flows through the locker room. they need to feel a win. If we can win the next two AND show improvement and cohesiveness we may just still have a shot. Lose next week and it's over .
Payton has wasted the latter half of a HOF QB career. He is the one common denominator. He needs to go.

is it sad for me to be honest that I don't want SP to win if it means keeping him. unless we were going to make the playoffs i'd rather just lose so we fire him. four years and same tired product.

burningmetal · 09-17-2017, 08:00 PM

I knew our defense would be bad today... We all did. But the Patriots defense is awful, and I thought this offense should be able to reach the thirties against them. What do they do? They put up over 400 yards and score 20 big ol' points.

Meaningless stats leading to meaningless offensive rankings, but not nearly enough points when they need them. Yep, this all sounds familiar.

AsylumGuido · 09-17-2017, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

is it sad for me to be honest that I don't want SP to win if it means keeping him. unless we were going to make the playoffs i'd rather just lose so we fire him. four years and same tired product.

I NEVER want to lose a game. If I ever get to the point that I ever wish for my Saints to lose I would just as soon be hit by a truck.

What the hell?

spkb25 · 09-17-2017, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I NEVER want to lose a game. If I ever get to the point that I ever wish for my Saints to lose I would just as soon be hit by a truck.

What the hell?

if it is win and keep SP for another year when the wins do not amount to playoffs, no thanks

AsylumGuido · 09-17-2017, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I knew our defense would be bad today... We all did. But the Patriots defense is awful, and I thought this offense should be able to reach the thirties against them. What do they do? They put up over 400 yards and score 20 big ol' points.

Meaningless stats leading to meaningless offensive rankings, but not nearly enough points when they need them. Yep, this all sounds familiar.

Missing Snead is huge. He has been Mr. Automatic 3rd Down Conversion.

The inability to convert on 3rd downs has been the culprit on offense.

CharityMike · 09-17-2017, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Missing Snead is huge. He has been Mr. Automatic 3rd Down Conversion.

The inability to convert on 3rd downs has been the culprit on offense.

Man you not lying. our Offense looks so stagnate this year. Unimaginative is the word that fits best. Our O line is also a mess. So with a offense that can't score points and a defense that can't stop anything, this is a recipe for failure.

AsylumGuido · 09-17-2017, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

if it is win and keep SP for another year when the wins do not amount to playoffs, no thanks

There in lies the difference, my friend.

I watch my Saints, as I have for 50 years, for the game to game entertainment value. Win or lose I love my Saints. I also know that there is nothing I can do to change anything about present or future outcomes. I get into the games as they unfold, of course. But then I let it be until the next week or the next season as I know I have no impact whatsoever on anything to do with the success or failure of my Saints.

Can't wait until next week!

14-2, Baby!

09-17-2017, 07:31 PM	#11
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09-17-2017, 07:51 PM	#12
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: I Just Can't Understand This Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Week 3: "must win" yeesh I said it early on. Week 1 was a must win. This team has seen a lot of defeat the past several years and they have to be getting tired of it mentally. Yes I know there are new players but that losing and desperate vibe flows through the locker room. they need to feel a win. If we can win the next two AND show improvement and cohesiveness we may just still have a shot. Lose next week and it's over . Payton has wasted the latter half of a HOF QB career. He is the one common denominator. He needs to go.
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09-17-2017, 07:54 PM	#13
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09-17-2017, 07:55 PM	#14
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: I Just Can't Understand This Originally Posted by The Dude I said it early on. Week 1 was a must win. This team has seen a lot of defeat the past several years and they have to be getting tired of it mentally. Yes I know there are new players but that losing and desperate vibe flows through the locker room. they need to feel a win. If we can win the next two AND show improvement and cohesiveness we may just still have a shot. Lose next week and it's over . Payton has wasted the latter half of a HOF QB career. He is the one common denominator. He needs to go. is it sad for me to be honest that I don't want SP to win if it means keeping him. unless we were going to make the playoffs i'd rather just lose so we fire him. four years and same tired product. WHODATINCA likes this.

09-17-2017, 08:00 PM	#15
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I Just Can't Understand This I knew our defense would be bad today... We all did. But the Patriots defense is awful, and I thought this offense should be able to reach the thirties against them. What do they do? They put up over 400 yards and score 20 big ol' points. Meaningless stats leading to meaningless offensive rankings, but not nearly enough points when they need them. Yep, this all sounds familiar. leilung, Barry from MS, Kryptonite and 2 others like this.

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09-17-2017, 08:11 PM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: I Just Can't Understand This Originally Posted by spkb25 is it sad for me to be honest that I don't want SP to win if it means keeping him. unless we were going to make the playoffs i'd rather just lose so we fire him. four years and same tired product. I NEVER want to lose a game. If I ever get to the point that I ever wish for my Saints to lose I would just as soon be hit by a truck. What the hell? 73Saint likes this.

09-17-2017, 08:12 PM	#17
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: I Just Can't Understand This Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I NEVER want to lose a game. If I ever get to the point that I ever wish for my Saints to lose I would just as soon be hit by a truck. What the hell? if it is win and keep SP for another year when the wins do not amount to playoffs, no thanks

09-17-2017, 08:13 PM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: I Just Can't Understand This Originally Posted by burningmetal I knew our defense would be bad today... We all did. But the Patriots defense is awful, and I thought this offense should be able to reach the thirties against them. What do they do? They put up over 400 yards and score 20 big ol' points. Meaningless stats leading to meaningless offensive rankings, but not nearly enough points when they need them. Yep, this all sounds familiar. Missing Snead is huge. He has been Mr. Automatic 3rd Down Conversion. The inability to convert on 3rd downs has been the culprit on offense. Rugby Saint II, ChrisXVI and CharityMike like this.

09-17-2017, 08:19 PM	#19
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: I Just Can't Understand This Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Missing Snead is huge. He has been Mr. Automatic 3rd Down Conversion. The inability to convert on 3rd downs has been the culprit on offense. Man you not lying. our Offense looks so stagnate this year. Unimaginative is the word that fits best. Our O line is also a mess. So with a offense that can't score points and a defense that can't stop anything, this is a recipe for failure. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-17-2017, 08:20 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: I Just Can't Understand This Originally Posted by spkb25 if it is win and keep SP for another year when the wins do not amount to playoffs, no thanks There in lies the difference, my friend. I watch my Saints, as I have for 50 years, for the game to game entertainment value. Win or lose I love my Saints. I also know that there is nothing I can do to change anything about present or future outcomes. I get into the games as they unfold, of course. But then I let it be until the next week or the next season as I know I have no impact whatsoever on anything to do with the success or failure of my Saints. Can't wait until next week! 14-2, Baby! Rugby Saint II and AlanGoff like this.
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