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Old 10-02-2017, 10:56 AM   #51
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I'm digging up this old thread because I just stumbled upon something about Vaccaro being on the trade block. This is from an ESPN Insider piece about potential trade targets:

Kenny Vaccaro, S, New Orleans Saints
An exec said the Saints have asked for a seventh that converts to a sixth in shopping Vaccaro. New Orleans would have to eat some of what remains on a contract featuring a $5.7 million salary for 2017, another exec said.
"This would be maybe a fourth-rounder if he were not on the final year of his deal, and a sixth-rounder because he is in the final year," another insider said. "Vaccaro is making too much money with too little production to get traded now. The Saints would have to eat salary."
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Old 10-02-2017, 10:14 PM   #52
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I thought he looked pretty good on Sunday except for the holding call.
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Old 10-02-2017, 10:19 PM   #53
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If Kenny V has clearly fell out of favor...

Look, again, if the Saints FO and Coaching Staff had been honest with themselves in April, we could already have moved him for more compensation and have his replacement in the fold...

However, only four (4) Saints defenders played 100% of the 52 defensive snaps from scrimmage Sunday - FS Marcus Williams, SS Kenny Vaccaro, LB A.J. Klein, and CB Ken Crawley(100%)

Kenny has to avoid the mental lapses and somehow let his playmaking ability show up on the field...

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I'm digging up this old thread because I just stumbled upon something about Vaccaro being on the trade block. This is from an ESPN Insider piece about potential trade targets:

Kenny Vaccaro, S, New Orleans Saints
An exec said the Saints have asked for a seventh that converts to a sixth in shopping Vaccaro. New Orleans would have to eat some of what remains on a contract featuring a $5.7 million salary for 2017, another exec said.
"This would be maybe a fourth-rounder if he were not on the final year of his deal, and a sixth-rounder because he is in the final year," another insider said. "Vaccaro is making too much money with too little production to get traded now. The Saints would have to eat salary."
If that's the case, let him finish the season with the Saints and one of two things happens...

Either he finally finds his game and that's great for the team and we re-evaluate in the off-season...

Or he's allowed to walk, signs elsewhere and we get a modest compensatory pick for him, more than we'd get now...
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:33 AM   #55
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Yea screw that trade. He may not be what we expected but trading him now for a late round pick would be dumb. Our defense would instantly take a step back. If he were that bad he would be on the bench a lot more which tells me we don't have anyone else on the team that can do a better job at the moment.
He will be another Malcom Jenkens.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:25 AM   #56
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Kenny has to avoid the mental lapses and somehow let his playmaking ability show up on the field...[/B]
KV needs to continue roaming around the line. This is where he excels ... liability on the back end. He's much more suited on under routes/slower WR's.
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:07 PM   #57
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KV needs to continue roaming around the line. This is where he excels ... liability on the back end. He's much more suited on under routes/slower WR's.
He is a much better player in the 3 safety set, let Williams and Bell have the back end, sub out a LB and bring Vaccaro down in tbe box. It has worked so far and it worked during Kenny's rookie season.
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I just don't see how we pay him for a new contract.

If the light hasn't turned on yet, it won't happen between now and the end of the season. He doesn't make impact plays (He has had maybe 3 in his entire career) and he is much more prone to mental mistakes which has hurt this defense the past 3+ years.

He had a solid rookie campaign but has regressed since. He is a decent safety but not one worthy of a huge contract. Someone will overpay for him in the open market.

We have drafted two other safeties in the past 2 years and that is our future at safety. He simply won't get signed.
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I just don't see how we pay him for a new contract.

If the light hasn't turned on yet, it won't happen between now and the end of the season. He doesn't make impact plays (He has had maybe 3 in his entire career) and he is much more prone to mental mistakes which has hurt this defense the past 3+ years.

He had a solid rookie campaign but has regressed since. He is a decent safety but not one worthy of a huge contract. Someone will overpay for him in the open market.

We have drafted two other safeties in the past 2 years and that is our future at safety. He simply won't get signed.
Part of this is due to the constant change in his role. Each DC has asked him to do something different. He is an in the box SS that can make plays when he is in that 10-15 yard area. Our problem as a whole on defense has been the constant changing in roles and schemes.....putting square pegs in a round hole...
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