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Old 09-22-2017, 01:47 PM   #1
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Sean Payton admits some bad picks have led to bad defense

The Saints are bad at defense. The Saints have been bad at defense for many years.

That’s no longer an accident or a coincidence.

Saints coach Sean Payton admitted some draft misses haven’t helped them climb out of their perpetual rebuild on defense, which is part of the reason they’re struggling so much now.

“When you’re not playing well on defense, there’s always going to be a few common themes with regards to getting off the field on third down,” Payton said, via Herbie Teope . “Statistically, a number of those things. But, man, you’re going back a ways here now. If you’re going back to when we first struggled in 2014, it hasn’t been good. . . .

“I would say the other common theme is we have missed on a handful of defensive players in the draft and that process has gotten better.”

Dumping a former first-round pick (linebacker Stephone Anthony) for spare change (a fifth-round pick) was a symptom of a larger disease. Since hitting on 2011 first-rounder Cameron Jordan, they’ve burned high picks on players such as second-round cornerback Stanley Jean Baptiste (2014). Then there’s 2013 first-rounder Kenny Vaccaro, who’s on the trade block and was benched. None of the four defensive players chosen in 2014 are still with the team, and 2015 picks Davis Tull and Damian Swann are already gone.

So it’s hardly a coincidence they’ve struggled. Since their last playoff appearance in 2013, the Saints haven’t finished higher than 27th in the league in total defense or 28th in the league in scoring defense. They’ve also endured the regrettable Rob Ryan era, and aren’t that far removed from setting a league record for yards allowed in a season (7,042 in 2012). But Payton wanted to make sure not to blame coordinator Dennis Allen.

“It’s never going to be the coordinator’s defense himself,” Payton said. “It’s going to be the Saints defense, No. 1.

“No. 2, from a personnel standpoint, how we and what we pay attention to, and first hand making sure that it’s something I’m comfortable with in regards to personnel. And making sure that we’ve asked the right question, so we know the player can learn and we know the player can fit in this role. And I think that process recently has served us very well.”

If recent first-round picks such as Sheldon Rankins and Marshon Lattimore can help fix things, some of the questions may subside. But there’s no sign at the moment things are getting better.

Sean Payton admits some bad picks have led to bad defense – ProFootballTalk


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too many DC and bouncing from 43 to 34 and back to 43 yet again.

That is the main issue
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too many DC and bouncing from 43 to 34 and back to 43 yet again.
And too much meddling by SP. At this level, you can't keep changing the type of defense you want to be year end and year out. We will never have players that "fit".
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Ya think............
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Rankins hasn't done much and Lattimore looks to be made of glass. He hasn't been on the field enough for his hammy to blow.
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Payton wakes up 8 years later with juicy fruit stuck in his hair, aimlessly wandering the aisles of walmart barefoot
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Payton wakes up 8 years later with juicy fruit stuck in his hair, aimlessly wandering the aisles of walmart barefoot
With $50 million in the bank and a Super Bowl ring on his finger.
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Sounds like a fireable offense to me.
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Pre-2015 drafts... Pathetic, and firings were justified.
Since then its been damn solid.
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Where is the evidence that it's been solid since 2015? We have Lattimore... Who else is showing up on that side of the ball, in any draft we've had recently? Rankins was at least a good pick, on paper, but he isn't showing anything right now. I know he's young, but until I see anyone other than Lattimore showing up, I'm not going to declare these drafts anything close to a success.
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