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jeanpierre 03-04-2018 01:01 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 793437)
Oh my God, Shaquem Griffin just ran a 4.38! I’m speechless!

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 793438)
That LB from UCF just ran a 4.3. Trade up and get him by any means.

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 793443)
It’s starting to become less of just a feel good story with Shaquem and
more of being a legitimately elite prospect. He’s not just a workout warrior either... His game tape is tremendous.

What we are seeing right now is the difference in prospects being managed by their agents, agencies with something to lose in the NFL Draft process and a man with nothing to lose in the fight for his life for legitimacy...

The movie rights alone are going be worth million$$$

frydaddy 03-04-2018 01:20 PM

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Griffin is an awesome story and I think he'll end up being at least a solid pro. I'd love to have him here, but unless we're willing to take him at the end of round one, we probably don't have a shot. With that time he's almost certainly put himself in the second round. If he has a good pro day he's borderline first. He may be borderline first already. His tape speaks for itself and he keeps finding new ways to prove the doubters wrong.

ChrisXVI 03-04-2018 04:14 PM

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I had Utah DE Kylie Fitts in the 6th round of my mock draft, but might have to bump him up. Look at these numbers...

DE Kylie Fitts
Height: 6-4; Weight: 263 lbs
40 Time: 4.69
10 Yard Split: 1.61
3-Cone: 6.88

Just incredible.

ChrisXVI 03-04-2018 04:18 PM

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Sam Hubbard didn’t run the 40, but his other numbers were fantastic!

3-Cone: 6.84 (Elite)
Vertical: 35

ChrisXVI 03-04-2018 04:39 PM

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Doesn’t look like Leighton Vander Esch will fall past 20 with these measurables...

Leighton Vander Esch
HT: 6-4 1/4
WT: 256 lbs.
Arms: 33 7/8”
40-yard: 4.65
Vert: 39.5”
Broad: 10’4”
SS: 4.15
3-Cone: 6.88

jeanpierre 03-04-2018 05:44 PM

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jeanpierre 03-04-2018 05:44 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 793460)
Doesn’t look like Leighton Vander Esch will fall past 20 with these measurables...

Leighton Vander Esch
HT: 6-4 1/4
WT: 256 lbs.
Arms: 33 7/8”
40-yard: 4.65
Vert: 39.5”
Broad: 10’4”
SS: 4.15
3-Cone: 6.88

That right there was the magic number - he may even go Top 15 now...

jeanpierre 03-04-2018 05:47 PM

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Hagan and I always looked to the occasional Tulane prospect; we're dinosaurs of a by-gone era when Tulane Football was respectable, a tough out...

...he'd be drooling over this guy that I've had in my groupings...



jeanpierre 03-05-2018 02:12 AM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
So I'm really admiring Shaquem Griffin's brave combine performance, then reality sets in for me...

NFL defenses rarely shut down opposing offenses, it's about turnovers, and this is where I'm forseeing a problem for Griffin...

So I go to College Football Reference for his collegiate turnover statistics and I get quite the surprise...

From 2013-2017 (includes a red shirt season where he only played three games his first two seasons), he did this:

Forced Fumbles - Five (5)
Fumble Recoveries - Four (4)
FR returned for TD - One (1)

and yes,

Three (3) career interceptions, one ea his SO, JU, SR seasons...

along with 18.5 career sacks, all from his JU, SR seasons...

ICYMI, he suffered a prenatal injury (umbilical cord wrapped around his wrist, restricting blood flow, development)...

Yes, his missing hand is going to be an issue at the NFL level where the parity of the talent really is that tight...

But he can do so many other things that I just don't see him on the board after the fourth round now...

jeanpierre 03-05-2018 08:41 AM

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