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jeanpierre 09-28-2017 12:29 PM

2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
I'm liking Baker Mayfield and Luke Falk for the Saints - not that they'd make it to the 32nd pick... ;)


jeanpierre 09-28-2017 12:31 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
My second favorite position, player in the draft - OSU's Bosa...


K Major 09-28-2017 12:35 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 767145)
I'm liking Baker Mayfield and Luke Falk for the Saints - not that they'd make it to the 32nd pick... ;)

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foreverfan 09-28-2017 02:57 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
You people need a hobby.

hagan714 09-28-2017 03:48 PM

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9. New Orleans Saints - Calvin Ridley WR Alabama 6005 190 4.48 #3 Jr

There is no arguing he is the most pro ready WR in the draft

Trade back and get some picks for once would be nice. Which we all know SP will not do. 90% odds on favorite to stand pat in round 1. If we did to say the pick 15 range :p

pick 15-20 range Christian Kirk WR/KR Texas A&M* 5106 200 4.39 #3 Jr

Reminds me of Cooks but unlike Cook he excels on quick screen and is a return man.

Or go for broke, drop back again, pick 20 - 25 range get some more picks and go for a player that could be the biggest impact pick in the draft for the saints.

Hate to say it but I am still watching

pick 20 - 25 range Ronnie Harrison SS/FS/CB/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr

He is a day one plug and play starter. Let Kenny walk and hope for a comp pick for once. :rolleyes: Direct that cap money to another position. He reminds of

Morgan Burnett SS/FS/CB/OLB 6013 209 4.51 Green Bay

Then go after your QB

I love Fluak but after doing some home work the #1 issue he has is some head injuries, nothing really serious but they are there. So his stock might take hit the media is not talking about yet.

Then there is Mayfield

So both QBs should still be there in the second

jeanpierre 09-28-2017 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 767158)
You people need a hobby.

Some people f*ck with cat pics all day, the NFL draft IS our hobby...

foreverfan 09-28-2017 03:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 767168)
Some people f*ck with cat pics all day, the NFL draft IS our hobby...

I guess I enjoy making people laugh, but it amazes me how many people forget the other stuff. ;)

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K Major 09-28-2017 04:11 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 767146)
My second favorite position, player in the draft - OSU's Bosa...

https://twitter.com/PFF_College/stat...10723031797760

I like the other Buckeye ... Tyquan Lewis.

hagan714 09-28-2017 04:19 PM

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I am not liking the OSU DEs as first round pick so far.

K Major 09-28-2017 04:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 767172)
I am not liking the OSU DEs as first round pick so far.

Not even Sam Hubbard?

jeanpierre 09-28-2017 05:11 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 767172)
I am not liking the OSU DEs as first round pick so far.

Seriously? Hagan, this year he's getting pinched, trap-blocked on the end cause teams are aware of him...

I'd love to have him opposite Trey for the next six-seven years...

Utah_Saint 09-28-2017 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 767167)
[B]Which we all know SP will not do.

With the way the last two drafts have gone, the only thing SP needs to do at the draft is fetch Jeff Ireland's coffee.

hagan714 09-28-2017 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 767178)
Seriously? Hagan, this year he's getting pinched, trap-blocked on the end cause teams are aware of him...

I'd love to have him opposite Trey for the next six-seven years...

last year he did not get it done either when he was not getting all the hype or attention. I think most of this is all OSU media hype machine at work. Ram neutralized all of them last year. So did most of the big ten OT they faced. None have been able to make the big play when it counted the most either . I had high hopes last year for the group and saw absolutely nothing out of them. I am still waiting for them to change my mind. Right now IMO they are upside picks or in other words they have yet to do it.

Teams are giving the OSU DE to much attention and when OSU faces a well balanced talented line they will find these DE are not to hard to handle.

Orlando Brown showed me more in the OU vs OSU

The most over hyped to date is Key. I did not see it last year and he has to get on the field to show me some thing this year.

Look at Chubb. Teams are doing everything they can to stop him for two years straight and all he does is keep making plays and making big plays when they are needed most. Chubb just keeps putting up the most complete set stats of all DE in college.

This could be a weak year at DE and a player like Chubb is just not glamorous enough athletically to get all the hype. Sure Chubb is not as gifted athletically as all these other players but he is a much better football player right now than any of the DE ranked ahead of him.

IMO

jeanpierre 09-29-2017 01:56 PM

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I'd agree with Key being overrated...

But, whether I like it or not, I've seen enough Ohio State games to know that Bosa is not overrated...

In fact, most of the attention he has received should better prepare him for the NFL...

It takes alot for me to even shout out for players from the Big 10...

And while I'd dump half the draft to move up for Baker Mayfield or Luke Falk, or a No. 1 and players like Armstead, this is the draft to get Brees' replacement...

K Major 09-29-2017 02:00 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Malik Jefferson (LB - Texas) looks like he could become a force at the next level.

Rugby Saint II 09-29-2017 03:43 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 767158)
You people need a hobby.

They've got one.....it's Saints football. :bng:

|Mitch| 09-29-2017 04:09 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 767158)
You people need a hobby.

Got one!

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K Major 09-29-2017 04:46 PM

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Whoa Nelli!! Mitch, is that an old school Ford Cobra ? I see the Pro Charger so I know it moves. Upgraded exhaust, cams? Headers?

Details please sir.

hagan714 09-30-2017 04:37 AM

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After the show Falk put on last night he is back on my list as a solid 1 in the middle of the round. gotta do some digging on these so called head hits. He stands tall in the pocket no matter the pressure. Getting his bell rung is what I am hoping they are talking about. That is not that big of an issue in my book. Full blown not knowing were you at and asking for momma is another issue all together. Then it is how long did it take for the head to clear and how many.

Love the way he goes through his progressions. This sets him a part from all the other top QB in the draft, he is so far ahead of everyone else. The kid does not get rattled. Imagine if he had top talent recruited around him. A lot of drops over the years by WR.

Falk still needs coaching. A couple of years behind Drew and SP in his ear is just what this kid needs. Match made in heaven?

On the other hand Sam Darnold, it's all about upside and he still has questions he needs to answer. He is a great example of what I was saying about the OSU DE.

The athleticism and skill set is all there. It is more about great flashes of what might be. Hype is all about the "IF". Donald is young and this year he is off to a so so start. Can he handle it and bounce back? Right now I am saying stay in school. Just like I said last year with OSU DEs despite the 3rd round grades they were getting from the media scouts. Right now I see them as 1/2 type of players with the great OSU media hype machine backing them up the chart.

Bradley Chubb is still my #1 complete DE. Run or Pass, Inside or Outside makes no difference, he does it all at a high level from any where on the field. He may not be a sack specialist at the next level. But he will be a player that keeps LB clean and open up lanes for blitzes. Like Cam he out mans his way to the QB. SDE? hard to find faults in his game. Slide him inside and bring on the speed rusher on passing downs is a great skill set the saints are lacking.

"IF" the OSU DEs get it going and the light comes on, they will be good if not great. Lets see what happens now that they are getting into the meat of the schedule.

The higher we draft in round 1 the more an "IF" drives me nuts. "IF" Latt can stay healthy was the #1 reason I would have not picked him and the reason i think he dropped to us. Howard had NO "IFs" IMO. Shame a talent like Howard is trapped in Tampa. The pairing of Drew and Howard had the makings of some thing special. oh well. Latt is the man.

"Ifs" need not apply in the top 15 unless the talent is not there.

That is my psychotic way of looking at the top of round 1 in the draft.

hagan714 09-30-2017 06:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 767376)
Whoa Nelli!! Mitch, is that an old school Ford Cobra ? I see the Pro Charger so I know it moves. Upgraded exhaust, cams? Headers?

Details please sir.

My first question is Hurst slap stick?

Second Question is Can I take it for a half mile spin? :D gotta get that last 1/4 mile thrust from the stang in there

Been years since I was pinned to a seat by some thing that sweet.

hagan714 09-30-2017 06:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 767345)
Malik Jefferson (LB - Texas) looks like he could become a force at the next level.

I like the kid too

ILB in 2016 to OLB is a good fit for him. Lets see how does. Athletically he has a good given gift. His coverage skills are pretty good.


What I am watching to see if he can take on blockers and shed them better.

CheramieIII 09-30-2017 07:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 767169)
I guess I enjoy making people laugh, but it amazes me how many people forget the other stuff. ;)

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You tear me up FF! I'm am crying and laughing at the same time!

vpheughan 09-30-2017 09:34 AM

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"The Kid"
Sure fire, Can't Miss, "Beast" making it "hurt tomorrow", bearer of multiple "Championships" "On The Cheap" for "The Hometown Discount"!! Of course after "Kicking The Tires" and "Seeing What's Left In The Tank"

WillMacKenzie 09-30-2017 09:49 AM

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But "what have you done for me lately?" Is it the "right 53" or the "win now mentality" could signal a "rebuilding phase." Playing with "house money" thinking "run the table" could end up with "too many cooks in the kitchen." "Gotta make hay while the sun shines" or "get out the kitchen."

Spider 2-y banana -- Jon Gruden

|Mitch| 09-30-2017 10:41 AM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 767376)
Whoa Nelli!! Mitch, is that an old school Ford Cobra ? I see the Pro Charger so I know it moves. Upgraded exhaust, cams? Headers?

Details please sir.

No sir; that there is a 2001 Ford Mustang GT; 2V 4.6 stroked to a 5.0 capable of handling 1000 hp...

2.8 liter Kenne Bell Mammoth Supercharger; 687 hp on a street tune... What is traction again?

Rugby Saint II 09-30-2017 04:00 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 767482)
No sir; that there is a 2001 Ford Mustang GT; 2V 4.6 stroked to a 5.0 capable of handling 1000 hp...

2.8 liter Kenne Bell Mammoth Supercharger; 687 hp on a street tune... What is traction again?

You smooth talker........

jeanpierre 10-08-2017 03:55 AM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Check out Luke Falk's rating, rank against the blitz...


jeanpierre 10-08-2017 03:57 AM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
Let me say I like Mayfield - a lot; but can he adapt his game to the NFL?


hagan714 10-08-2017 05:27 AM

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Mayfield has that "IT" factor going for him over Falk right now. Saw a huge difference in demeanor yesterday in Mayfield loss vs Falk win.

Mayfield reminds me of Drew and they can see eye to eye

Disclaimer? Mayfield has better talent to work with.

I am really liking
Dimitri Flowers HB/FB/TE Oklahoma 6005 247 4.83 (?) #36 Sr
Cole Madison ROT/ROG Washington St 6045 305 5.17 #61 rSr

vpheughan 10-10-2017 10:08 AM

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You Loved Him The First Time! IMAGINE!! THE KID TWO!!!!! oops THE KID 2.0!!

QBREES9 10-10-2017 11:29 PM

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Damn we're only how many games into the season, and y'all want talk about the draft.

jeanpierre 10-10-2017 11:39 PM

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No one's writing off the season, we're just scouting and discussing how the talent could fit, improve the team...

hagan714 10-11-2017 10:57 AM

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I am still banking on a pick at the worse 15 to 20 range.

Playoff teams 20 to 32

Stay healthy and keep gelling at this rate and 20 or higher is back on the table.

jeanpierre 10-14-2017 06:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 769336)
I am still banking on a pick at the worse 15 to 20 range.

Playoff teams 20 to 32

Stay healthy and keep gelling at this rate and 20 or higher is back on the table.

Kamara's continued, improved play and trading the 64th pick sure would minimize the pain of trading that second round pick...

hagan714 10-14-2017 07:37 AM

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My early gut feeling is SP will go after the top toy in the draft.

Christian Kirk WR/KR/PR Texas A&M* 5106 200 4.39 #3 Jr

I like his college game more than Cooks college game. Its simple. KR/PR skill set Cooks never had and Kirk is much better at quick screens and reverses also. Which we all know is an SP favorite.

I would find it hard to pass on the most pro ready WR in the draft.

Calvin Ridley WR Alabama 6005 190 4.48

He is a plug n play #2 day 1

want a mid to late round (5/6) injury flyer in the slot?

Deebo Samuel WR/KR South Carolina 5110 208 4.50 #1 rJr

He is great working out of the slot. He is a solid route runner. He sets up DBs very nicely with smooth, quick and shifty breaks. Shame he broke his fibula. He was looking really good too. Good side he did it early in the year and should be ready to go for OTAs. He was looking like a day 1 starter. He is one of those sneaky quick pest in the slot that can drive teams nuts.

Few others since we have 2 - 5s and 2 - 6s
Michael Gallup WR, Colorado State, 6-1, 195, 4.52, Sr.
Cedric Wilson WR Boise St 6016 4.49 #1 Sr

I may not see the immediate needs in picking both

Calvin Ridley WR Alabama 6005 190 4.48 #3 Jr
Deebo Samuel WR/KR South Carolina 5110 208 4.50 #1 rJr

But I would have to admit I could see a great chance that the saints 3 WR set would be set for years to come.

Micheal Thomas WR OSU 6026 212 4.52 #3 rJr
Calvin Ridley WR Alabama 6005 190 4.48 #3 Jr
Deebo Samuel WR/KR South Carolina 5110 208 4.50 #1 rJr
Willie Snead WR/KR Ball St 5110 195 4.56 #3 Jr
Brandon Coleman WR Rutgers 6060 225 4.52 #17 rJr

I have not given up on
Corey Fuller WR Virgina Tech 6022 204 4.43 #83 rSr

I would almost be giddy and looking for a TE to finish it off this beast for Drew and SP

But my gut is telling me

Micheal Thomas WR OSU 6026 212 4.52 #3 rJr
Christian Kirk WR/KR/PR Texas A&M* 5106 200 4.39 #3 Jr

jeanpierre 10-14-2017 11:38 PM

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Don't see the need for more toys and don't think the Saints will go that way...

QB, DE, OG should be the top needs going into the draft...

Crusader 10-15-2017 02:07 AM

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If anything toywise i would expect a receiving TE.

I would like us to continue building the lines thou. LG, DE, another young C.

K Major 10-15-2017 11:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 769269)
Damn we're only how many games into the season, and y'all want talk about the draft.

The NFL is Chess not checkers. The successful organizations are always game planning, forecasting while accounting for the unknown.

The key to winning at this level is strategic forward thinking.

CheramieIII 10-15-2017 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 767158)
You people need a hobby.

What do you mean us people? lol

CheramieIII 10-15-2017 01:07 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
I really think we need a QB to but depending on where we'll be drafting the options might be slim.


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