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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We could not run out the clock. Given what AP did today against TB, he would have continued his ownage of the lions if given the chance. We won but it was ugly. As I have ...

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Old 10-16-2017, 12:29 AM   #31
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We could not run out the clock. Given what AP did today against TB, he would have continued his ownage of the lions if given the chance. We won but it was ugly. As I have said constantly for weeks, that defense has to play well to calm Brees down because he looked rattled in the second half, overthrowing receivers and too short passes that don't result in first downs. I just know AP would have put this game away and it would have never been 45-38 at one point.
I dont agree with your belief that AD would have made any difference on this particular football team with Sean Payton as the Boss.

Your take on Brees?
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:34 AM   #32
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Brees and the offense were completely embarrassing in the second half.

On a 3rd and 3, Brees threw incomplete to Fleener, he missed a wide open Michael Thomas sat in an empty zone right in front of him.

Kamara is a great player, but we threw to him far too much, it was too obvious.

Brees was off and it was noticeable, SP was going nuts on the sideline when couldn't convert 3rd downs. They better get that cleaned up, they almost cost us the game and put all the pressure on a young D who played outstanding.
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Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season.
Drew has had 3 completions of 40+ yards this season. He has a PR of 103.2. Last year he only had 10 completions of 40+ yards. In 2009, he only had 11 completions of 40+ yards. I don't think the issue is Drew's arm. I think the issue is that our run game is inconsistent and play-action opportunities suffer because of it ( and our o-line has been unstable ). I also think our short passing game has been stunted without Willie Snead ( which also has meant less check-down opportunities and not enough decoys on the field ). Also, Coleman has not exactly shined this season. He needs to step up.

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Old 10-16-2017, 03:51 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 View Post
We could not run out the clock. Given what AP did today against TB, he would have continued his ownage of the lions if given the chance. We won but it was ugly. As I have said constantly for weeks, that defense has to play well to calm Brees down because he looked rattled in the second half, overthrowing receivers and too short passes that don't result in first downs. I just know AP would have put this game away and it would have never been 45-38 at one point.
No offense to AP intentionally but Arizona was up 31-6 start of the 4th quarter and Tampa almost came back with a sub at quarterback.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:17 AM   #35
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I've gone from "meh" to optimistically realistic. What a crazy and fun game to watch yesterday.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:30 AM   #36
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Better than sitting side by side with Guido simultaneously rubbing one out to a team that can't be criticized.
Why do you even watch Saints football? You ***** when they lose; you ***** even worse when they win!

I'm mean seriously *****ing about the best defensive performance we've seen in forever! They only gave up 21 and made up the difference with scoring 21!

You are a sad person and I'd hate to be around you in everyday life where things that really matter happen...

I watch the Saints for entertainment; I may get a little upset when they lose. But I get enjoyment out of them winning, and don't find it wise to waste energy on *****ing about something I can't control. And if I ever get like you and ***** about everything win/lose, than at that point I'll stop watching Saints football and find something else to do instead! Because to me; I'd have lost the entertainment value...
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:51 AM   #37
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Saints 52, Lions 38

Some scores tend to be misleading, and this is certainly one of them. The Saints dominated the Lions on both sides of the ball, jumping out to a 45-10 lead to help them earn the victory to improve to 3-2 on the year.

The Saints were able to benefit from some turnovers. On Detroit's opening drive, Matthew Stafford was stip-sacked in the end zone because he held the ball for an eternity. The turnover gave the Saints a 7-0 lead. Stafford was strip-sacked once more in the opening half, as a poor protection scheme allowed a defender to just take the ball right out of his hand. The Lions also barely missed out on a score, as their backup tight end was stuffed inches shy of the goal line on a fourth-down attempt just prior to halftime.

Other than that, the Saints just beat the Lions with superior talent. Aside from a poor opening drive, New Orleans was able to get chunk plays throughout the opening half. The Lions had no answer for Drew Brees and his running backs, as they were guilty of some miserable tackling. They also generated zero pass rush. By the time the Saints were up 45-10, they were averaging 7.6 yards per play. That's almost a first down on every single snap!

There was some late-game nonsense to trim the margin to a couple of touchdowns, but make no mistake about it; this game was never close desptite the final score.

Brees finished with some misleading stats. The final numbers say he was 21-of-31 for 186 yards, two touchdowns and a pair of interceptions. However, he was 12-of-14 for 148 yards and a touchdown in the opening half. The Saints fell asleep following intermission, and when Brees had to begin throwing the ball again, he was out of rhythm with his receivers. Neither of his picks were his fault either; the first occurred when Darius Slay ripped the ball out of Michael Thomas' hands, while the second was the result of the ball being tipped.

With Brees not doing much in the second half, the Saints' receiving stats were suppressed. Ted Ginn led the way with four grabs for 66 yards and a touchdown. Mark Ingram (5-36) was next on the list, while Thomas was a major disappointment, logging just three receptions for 11 yards.

Speaking of Ingram, he looked terrific. Showing that he did indeed deserve the starting job over Adrian Peterson, Ingram tallied 114 yards and two touchdowns on 25 carries on top of his receiving numbers. Alvin Kamara (10-75) also played extremely well.

As for the Lions, Stafford's five turnovers were absolutely crushing, as the offense needed to keep pace with the Saints because their defense couldn't stop Brees at all. Stafford, as mentioned, was strip-sacked twice, and he threw a trio of picks during a failed comeback attempt in the second half, one of which was a tipped pick-six when the margin was trimmed to 45-38. Stafford finished 25-of-52 for 312 yards and three touchdowns in addition to his five give-aways. Amazingly, he had 12 passes batted at the line of scrimmage.

Golden Tate continued to give the Saints grief, as he caught seven passes for 96 yards and a touchdown. His score, a 45-yarder, occurred because Ken Crawley and Rafael Bush had some pitiful tackling attempts. Unfortunately, he left the game with a shoulder injury. Marvin Jones (6-96) equaled Tate's yardage total and also scored a touchdown, but all of that came in garbage time.

The Lions tried to establish the run with Ameer Abdullah, but weren't very successful. Abdullah gained 54 yards on 14 carries, but nearly all of it came on a 34-yard burst.
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Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit

I learned some people on this board are miserable and will not be happy with anything
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:10 AM   #39
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-The batted balls was the most impressive thing I've seen in a while. Great coaching AND player execution.
-Kamara is the real deal.
-Peat is playing at an all-pro level.
-Ramczyk was a great pick. The guy just lines up and plays.
-Keep overlooking Robertson. Please continue to motivate the guy. If you see him, tell him he's slow and lucky to be in the NFL.
-Lattimore is very good and competes.
-Crawley is good and competes hard.
-Hendrickson competes.
-The coaching and play calling was better yesterday.
-The defense did a better job defending against the bunch/pick plays.
-Ginn contributes.
-I don't understand Fleener. Injured? Average talent? Doghouse?
-Bell and Williams need to improve their tackling.
-The DT rotation is thin. McDaniel could help here.
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Old 10-16-2017, 10:17 AM   #40
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Offense the reason the game became close. Way too many 3 and outs. 2nd half dreadful. Defense won the day. How about the Coach giving up 4 points causing us to lose 4 points by getting the dumb delay of game call. Then the play calling was atrocious after the first half. Agree with comments above about prevent defense. Have to learn to play winning football FOR 4 QUARTERS again.
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