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Old 10-24-2017, 08:21 PM   #11
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:25 PM   #12
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Re: Saints can credit 2017 turnaround to improved scouting under Jeff Ireland

I am tipping my hat to FA signings right now over the last two tears.

DA getting Ireland to nab FAs

Klien and Robertson look to be huge steals

Okafor, Stupar and Te'o are looking like solid additions

Next up Gerald Hodges

These are the huge moves that have changed the saints over the last two years.
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Free Agents signings are definitely getting better; only disappointments I have are:

...not that Warford has been awful, but I'd rather had spent an extra mil and gotten Zeitler who is more mobile and as effective in pass protection (even better with Brees)...

Losing out on Zeitler, we're forced to overpay for Warford because of those two being the onlyacceptable options on the market in a high-priority position for us...

...not vetting Nick Fairley's heart condition and rushing to extend him also took other options off the table for us this season...

...maybe the Payton/Loomis learned as attested by the Jon Dorenbos retracted trade (and saving of his life)...

...and then the Adrian Peterson signing which was at first excited because it signaled a commitment to run, but was reminded this is Sean Payton's team...

...with the Peterson money slot we could've signed, upgraded, or add'l linebacker and/or interior offensive lineman...

But none of the big albatross contracts like that of Byrd...
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Re: Saints can credit 2017 turnaround to improved scouting under Jeff Ireland

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Are you suggesting Benson is thinking with the wrong head?
At this point, he's probably happy when some changes his diaper and wipes him down with a warm, wet towel...

Something Rita wasn't going to be able to do without drawing long looks...
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I don't care as long as were winning. Great job guys.
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Sometimes wonder if the handcuffs were taken off of Jeff Ireland if things would've been different with Nick Fairley (better vetting)...
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Sometimes wonder if the handcuffs were taken off of Jeff Ireland if things would've been different with Nick Fairley (better vetting)...
Ireland's been here a year longer than Fairley, so I doubt it.
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Don't most teams do a bonehead or two every year?
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Don't most teams do a bonehead or two every year?
Well, because of Ireland, we're closer to the league average now...
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Old 10-26-2017, 06:39 AM   #20
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After several years of below average production from the whole organization, it's way too early to crown anyone. The season is far from over. Lattimore fell to the Saints. Ram fell to the Saints because of injury. Kamara was all Payton. Klien was a backup who got paid starter money. Warford was paid top dollar. Teo' needed a new home after injuries and under producing. Lutz was a present from Harbaugh. Putting aside the heart issue, I didn't think Fairly was worthy of the money he got paid to begin with. Any way you look at Anzalone, right now it was a miss. The whole availability thing. Ginn was a good pick up. Williams was steal at safety. Hendrickson was a good pick. And Muhammad has shown promise. Lots going on. Not all good. Not all Ireland.
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