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saintswhodi 04-11-2005 10:55 AM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
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Next I watched Campbell. My first question was: Where's this guy been hiding? The simple answer: Behind Brown and a very big Cadillac. Campbell is 6-4 3/4 and 230 pounds. His pass-drop is quick and textbook perfect. He sets up well in the pocket, bouncing athletically until he finds his receivers. He never flinches against a pass rush, moving deftly this way or that to avoid traffic. He throws on the run better than Rodgers or Campbell. On one throw against Kentucky last fall, he rolled out from his 46 to his right, then flicked a sideline throw 19 yards downfield for an in-stride completion. That's the kind of throw he'll be asked to make 100 times a year in the NFL.

I had to look up Campbell's numbers, because I'd been so focused on the two big names that I hadn't focused on the lesser-lights at quarterback. He was 31-8 as an Auburn starter. He shattered the school's completion percentage by three points, completing 64.6 percent of his throws. Why was he not considered a peer of the two top prospects?

I heard two things when I asked around on Friday. One: he scored a very pedestrian 14 on his Wonderlic test last year, then got it up to 28 this year. Teams are suspicious that he studied for his Wonderlic and the 14 is closer to what his true score is. Two: If he was so good, why didn't the Auburn offensive staff design the games around him instead of the great backs?

My rejoinders: In the case of the Wonderlic, wouldn't you want your quarterback to work to get better where he's deficient? I would. And look how the kid adjusted to four different offensive coordinators in his Auburn career. He obviously was able to digest a lot of X's and O's pretty well. In regard to play-calling, let's remember two things: First, SEC coaches voted Campbell the 2004 offensive player of the year. And he averaged 21 pass attempts a game. This isn't Bob Griese with Kiick, Csonka and Morris, folks. This is a guy who controlled a high-octane offense and was the ringleader.

I saw Frye bounce two short throws three feet away from uncovered receivers in his Indianapolis workout, and maybe that just soured me. But his over-the-top throwing motion looked cumbersome and labored. Anderson's been schooled well by former Chargers boss Mike Riley. He throws a tight, hard spiral with a nice touch on the deep ball.

But the 49ers won't be looking at those guys. I hope they take another look at Campbell. I sure would if I were Mike Nolan
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baronm 04-11-2005 11:21 AM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
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If he was so good, why didn\'t the Auburn offensive staff design the games around him instead of the great backs?
It\'s not a well guarded secret that cambell was the product of borges offense last year-they dumbed it down significantly...cambell also worries me in that he seems to need to be coddled in order to be effecient.

saintswhodi 04-11-2005 11:32 AM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
Why do you say that baron? I have seen nothing that suggests Campbell would be anything but a fine pro quarterback. He had 4 different offenses, I am surprised he was able to do as well as he did, especially since our current QB seems to struggle so much in just one. Scouts seem to think he has the tools, Kiper thinks so, King thinks so, I haven\'t seen him going anywhere later than the second round, so why are you so against the guy? The Aubrun games I saw I came away impressed with him. He isn\'t Dameyeune Craig.

LKelley67 04-11-2005 11:54 AM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
he oughta fit in just fine with the new dumbed down program here then baron.

for the record, i hope is taken before #40. before last year he never impressed me at all. andrew walter would be a falling gift if still around at #82 though. baton rouge boy lefors at 4th or 5th round wouldn\'t be a bad try-me either.

baronm 04-11-2005 02:28 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
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Why do you say that baron? I have seen nothing that suggests Campbell would be anything but a fine pro quarterback. He had 4 different offenses, I am surprised he was able to do as well as he did, especially since our current QB seems to struggle so much in just one. Scouts seem to think he has the tools, Kiper thinks so, King thinks so, I haven\'t seen him going anywhere later than the second round, so why are you so against the guy? The Aubrun games I saw I came away impressed with him. He isn\'t Dameyeune Craig.
four years of watching him, talking with him, etc...no-he\'s better than craig-way better...but I\'m still not convinved that he can pick up an offense..

If he goes to the right situation he will flourish-this is not the right situation. cleveland will be perfect for him as I think he could easily be like mcnair-but he could easily be akili smith as well.

scouts love guys with the physical tools...any guy whose best season is his senior year scares me..it scares me worse when in most games that guy seems lost and is backed up by three spectacular RB\'s.

The alabama game-the light came on in the second half-kinda like brooks- but cambell almost lost us that game and several others....


baronm 04-11-2005 02:29 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
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he oughta fit in just fine with the new dumbed down program here then baron.

for the record, i hope is taken before #40. before last year he never impressed me at all. andrew walter would be a falling gift if still around at #82 though. baton rouge boy lefors at 4th or 5th round wouldn\'t be a bad try-me either.
I think at the latest cambell will go to cleveland in the second..but I see him being taken in the first.

I want fitzgerald, le flors or greene.

saintswhodi 04-11-2005 02:33 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
But Auburn was undefeated. In the LSU game we held Auburn\'s running game in check, and Campbell made sevral key passes to keep the team ahead and running the clock. In the Tenn game, he looked pretty good as well. The bigger the game, the better he seemed to play IMO. We just may have a difference of opinion on this guy. A lot of people don\'t like Rohan Davey but if he was good enough to be the number 2 in NE, he\'s good enough to start here IMO. lol But you are right, it is all about the right situation and this team may not be the right fit for him. But then, why would we look at any QB later. None are polished. The further we wait to draft a guy seems like the worse it will be for us in the future, based on that logic. OR we can hope for another late round gem, but are we really gonna wait to see if after 3-6 years they can finally start? I think we need a guy to push this year and be starting by next year, and Campbell seemed like that gut to me.

baronm 04-11-2005 02:42 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
whodi-

ask any auburn fan at the begginning of last year what they think of cambell-they would have said-dumb!!! wasted talent...similar to what we say about brooks.

ask them during the season-they would say-scary. inconsistent. thank god for ronnie and cadillac.

Cambell makes just as many bad decisions as good-not scoring in the bowl game when we get to the red zone several times because he overthrew the ball, the first half against bama, both tennessee games.

those were big, if not huge games-yeah, he played well against the division II schools..but a good defense he had trouble with.

He\'s a nice guy, so I hope he makes it...-most believe that he is a product of borgues\' offense. If he goes to a good offensive co-ordinator--cleveland, tennessee..he has a chance...but it\'s gonna take a couple of years.
but isn\'t that with every player--it\'s about finding the right fit?




[Edited on 11/4/2005 by JOESAM2002]

saintswhodi 04-11-2005 02:50 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
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2004 Game Log Passing Rushing
DATE & OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA TD INT SACK RAT ATT YDS AVG TD
9/4 Louisiana Monroe Win 31-0 11 18 110 61.1 6.1 2 1 1 138.0 3 -3 -1.0 0
9/11 @Mississippi St. Win 43-14 8 17 139 47.1 8.2 3 0 0 174.0 2 -10 -5.0 0
9/18 LSU Win 10-9 16 27 170 59.3 6.3 1 0 2 124.4 6 -9 -1.5 0
9/25 The Citadel Win 33-3 11 14 194 78.6 13.9 0 0 0 195.0 2 2 1.0 1
10/2 @Tennessee Win 34-10 16 23 252 69.6 11.0 2 1 1 181.6 2 -1 -0.5 0
10/9 Louisiana Tech Win 52-7 13 18 201 72.2 11.2 2 0 3 202.7 5 -15 -3.0 0
10/16 Arkansas Win 38-20 17 19 297 89.5 15.6 3 0 0 272.9 1 3 3.0 0
10/23 Kentucky Win 42-10 11 15 127 73.3 8.5 0 0 2 144.5 5 -18 -3.6 0
10/30 @Mississippi Win 35-14 11 22 234 50.0 10.6 1 1 0 145.3 5 4 0.8 2
11/13 Georgia Win 24-6 18 22 189 81.8 8.6 1 1 0 159.9 2 16 8.0 0
11/20 @Alabama Win 21-13 18 24 224 75.0 9.3 1 1 1 158.8 6 7 1.2 0
12/4 @Tennessee Win 38-28 27 35 374 77.1 10.7 3 1 1 189.5 13 57 4.4 0
We MUST be talking about different guys. LSU game over 50% completions, almost 60, 1 td 0 trunover sin a game the entire offense was held in check.

Against Tenn he completed nearly 70% 2 Tds 1 INT the first time.

Against Arkansas, 3 TDs no INTs 90% completion rate.

Against Georgia, 82% completion rate 1 TD 1 INT

Sec title game, 77% completion rate 3 Tds 1 INT

BCS bowl game. One Td one INT 69% completion rate. Those look like pretty big games to me and he did damn good.

GoldenTomb 04-11-2005 03:13 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
I\'m a bit weary of Campbell. Big senior season, but what else?

I am beginning to get on the Adrian McPherson bandwagon. He scored a 26 on his Wonderlic(one time), 12 pts. better than Campbell and 8 better than Brooks. Plus, he\'s considered a better athelete than both of them.

Imagine, Brooks with brains.

[Edited on 11/4/2005 by GoldenTomb]

lsuforever 04-11-2005 03:35 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
I agree with most of the replies that if you have 2 top 10 runningbacks on your team youre gonna have to put 8-9 in the box which is gonna create more one on one situations with recievers. Cambell is not someone i would want to trust with a passing attack. Auburn was a passing team until they got the new Off. coordinator and made it so brown and williams are on the field at the same time. Thats win they started winning

saintswhodi 04-11-2005 03:38 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
Hey GT, I am not opposed to McPherson. I like the guy a lot. Just don\'t want Campbell overlooked. Carson Plamer only had a big senior season and he seems to be okay. I never heard of Leftwich before his last year in college, nor David Carr. There is something to be said about a guy who has been in 4 different offenses still having the light go on for him and putting in a stellar season. But I am not at all adverse to getting McPherson, and actually would prefer it if we could get him lower than where Campbell would be drafted.

GoldenTomb 04-11-2005 03:47 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
I guess I said that wrong. I meant players with one big year before they come out in the draft. Not necessarily seniors. I had Akili Smith in mind when I was thinking that, but I think he came out as a junior. Never mind what I said about seniors. But all the same I would still prefer McPherson. I never really read anything bad about him except the gambling issues. If anything, if he loses all of his money gambling, he\'ll play harder to get more money. ;)

saintswhodi 04-11-2005 03:51 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
LMAO!!! He claims he never gambled though, only that he wrote some hot checks. But hey, whatever works to keep a player hungry and wanting to perform once he gets here. They should introduce him to Harrah\'s first day in.

GoldenTomb 04-11-2005 04:01 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
From CBSSportsline.com

ADRIAN MCPHERSON

OVERVIEW
An extremely talented quarterback who honed his pinpoint accuracy while competing for the Indiana Firebirds in the Arena Football League during the 2004 season. Joined Indiana after the season began and was not activated until the third game, but still managed to win AFL Rookie of the Year honors. McPherson completed 209 of 352 passes (59.4 percent) for 2,965 yards, 56 touchdowns and only five interceptions in fourteen games. He also scored 18 times on 59 carries for 257 yards (4.4 avg).

McPherson was the first athlete to ever be named Florida Mr. Football and Mr. Basketball, prepping at Southeast (Bradenton, Fla.) High School. He was also selected Gatorade Florida Player of the Year and first-team class 4A All-State, as he passed for 3,727 yards on 217 of 355 passing with 42 touchdowns as a senior. He also rushed for 765 yards and eight scores that year. McPherson passed for 75 touchdowns and 6,161 yards over his last two seasons.

In basketball, he averaged 35 points, 10 rebounds and nine assists a game, including games of 59, 56, 52, 49 and 46 points in basketball during his junior year. McPherson broke his single-game scoring record in basketball with 59 points vs. East Bay. He played outfield for his American Legion baseball team that won a state championship last summer and hails from the same high school as former FSU and Cincinnati Bengals star Peter Warrick.

McPherson backed up Chris Rix as a true freshman at Florida State in 2001. He appeared in nine games, completing 18 of 37 passes (48.6 percent) for 198 yards and two touchdowns, adding 16 yards on 23 carries that year. He opened the 2002 campaign behind Rix, but when the starting quarterback struggled, McPherson replaced him in the lineup vs. Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, North Carolina and North Carolina State. He connected on 80 of 155 passes (51.6 percent) for 1,017 yards, twelve touchdowns and only one interception. Adrian also rushed 48 times for 180 yards (3.8 avg).

However, McPherson was arrested on 11/27/02 on charges of stealing a blank check and receiving nearly $3,500 after it was cashed. He was kicked off the team, finishing his career with 98 of 192 passes for 1,215 yards (51.0 percent), fourteen touchdowns and one interception. He also gained 196 yards on 71 rushing attempts (2.8 avg).

Three months after being dismissed from Florida State, he was also charged with gambling on pro and college games, including FSU contests (a childhood friend, Otis Livingston, said McPherson bet on the Seminoles to beat Notre Dame -- they lost 34-24 -- and lost another $1,000 bet on the Miami-West Virginia game. He said the internet gambling account was under a friend\'s name, but he, McPherson and the friend all used it.

\"It started off with a hundred (dollars), all three of us together,\" Livingston testified.

McPherson was charged with a second-degree misdemeanor that carries a maximum penalty of 60 days in jail and a $500 fine). He attempted to enroll at another school, but with the legal issues, was forced to sit out the 2003 season. Once his legal troubles were behind him, McPherson became the youngest player to ever suit up for an Arena Football League team at age nineteen.


ANALYSIS
Positives … Excellent athlete who can create something out of nothing … Has outstanding quickness and feet, above average agility and balance, good change of direction and agility and sudden acceleration past the line of scrimmage … Has the ability to set up and throw quickly, showing consistency and a smooth set up … Has good body control to throw on the run and shows speed to his throwing point … Developed a knack for seeing underneath coverage, resulting in a limited amount of tipped passes … Learned to throw the ball away when he should and will not normally force the ball into coverage … Very innovative in the pocket and has the quickness to create problems for the defense with his feet … Plants well to throw and shows a tight spiral behind his tosses … Can get good zip on throws when he sets his feet, showing improvement on accuracy in 2004 arena ball … Has the arm strength to throw the ball 55-60 yards with ease … Shows good zip behind his tosses and is developing above average deep arm strength that can only get better with maturity … Can drill the ball in the seam and consistently hit the short area targets, keeping the receivers on their routes with minimal adjustment … Has the strength to get the ball deep, doing a nice job of leading the receiver so his target does not have to wait or come back for the pass … Especially effective with his timing when hitting his receivers in the short and intermediate areas … Can avoid sacks, buy a second chance and make a big play out of a complete disaster thanks to his elusiveness and quickness.

Negatives … Off-field problems might be behind him, but teams will be very cautious before deciding if he is worth the gamble … Relies more on his athletic ability than a knowledge for the game and is still doing it all on instincts alone … Can get rid of ball quickly most of the time, but tends to have a little bit of a windup when flushed out of the pocket and when throwing to his left … His accuracy seems to be better when he is on the move and on touch throws rather than in the pocket (tends to get impatient).


INJURY REPORT
No injuries reported.


AGILITY
COMBINE: 4.71 in the 40-yard dash … 2.73 20-yard dash … 1.68 10-yard dash … 34.5-inch vertical jump … 10\'8\" broad jump … 4.08 20-yard shuttle … 6.93 three-cone drill … 32 ¾-inch arm length … 9-inch hands … 26 Wonderlic score.


HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Southeast (Bradenton, Fla.) High School, where he became the first player in state history to earn both Mr. Football and Mr. Basketball honors … Also selected Gatorade Florida Player of the Year and first-team class 4A All-State, as he passed for 3,727 yards on 217 of 355 passing with 42 touchdowns as a senior … Rushed for 765 yards and eight scores that year … Passed for 75 touchdowns and 6,161 yards over his last two seasons …

In basketball, he averaged 35 points, 10 rebounds and nine assists a game including games of 59, 56, 52, 49 and 46 points in basketball during his junior year … Broke his single-game scoring record in basketball with 59 points vs. East Bay … Played outfield for his American Legion baseball team that won a state championship last summer and hails from the same high school as former FSU and Cincinnati Bengals star, Peter Warrick.


PERSONAL
Sociology major … Father, Floyd, played basketball at Manatee Community College … Born Adrian Jamal McPherson on 5/08/83 … Resides in Bradenton, Florida.

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saintswhodi 04-11-2005 04:05 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
Exactly. Like I said, McPherson NEVER admitted to gambling. Someone else said he did it. He said in an interview on ESPN he has never admitted that, and he hasn\'t. If you are showing me his physical attributes, I was already sold.

GoldenTomb 04-11-2005 04:29 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
Yeah plus the fact that he was already in a pro environment helps. I think the gambling should be in the positive column though, for the reason I listed...lol.

Looking at McPherson and then Brooks...I would figure Gumbo would be all over this. He\'s a better specimen than Brooks, he\'s younger and smarter. A no-brainer to me!

saintswhodi 04-11-2005 04:33 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
Yes but AB is currently wearing the black and gold while AM is not. Wait until we draft him, he will be the next sure fire hall of famer. As it stands right now, any threat to AB\'s position as starting QB is a serious no-no in some opinions. ;)

mutineer10 04-11-2005 06:54 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
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Yes but AB is currently wearing the black and gold while AM is not. Wait until we draft him, he will be the next sure fire hall of famer. As it stands right now, any threat to AB\'s position as starting QB is a serious no-no in some opinions.
Ain\'t it da truth...?

I dunno about Campbell. Living in Birmingham for the last 5 years, I\'ve seen virtually every Auburn game. Campbell had an outstanding 2004 season, that\'s a fact and I\'ll take nothing away from him there. But I also remember 2001-2003. He posted some decent stats in those years, but when actually watching the games he looked completely lost ... shellshocked, even. Didn\'t help him that Auburn had serious OL problems until 2004, but Campbell really didn\'t handle pressure well in his early years.

The new system installed under Borgis really helped Campbell, thus his breakout senior season. Borgis was smart enough to use Auburn\'s standout RB\'s to set up the play-action pass, and Campbell really caught on then. There\'s no questioning whether he\'s capable or talented enough, it\'s really more to question his poise. He had a real problem with \"happy feet\" from 2001-2003, but if he\'s managed to shake that, he\'s surely worth a look.

I have no personal vendetta against Campbell, he just makes me a bit nervous (b/c of \'01-\'03). If I had more faith that he could play to his potential, I\'d be screaming for him. Therein lies the gamble ... Campbell could be a great NFL QB ... or another Aaron Brooks. Gonna be interesting to see who takes a chance on him.

saintswhodi 04-11-2005 07:36 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
Good observations mutey. I guess I will go with the popular judgment, as I have not seen him as many times as most. I guess it is a jaded view of only seeing him when he played well. I like McPherson a lot to, and hopefully we at least take a shot on him.

mutineer10 04-11-2005 08:13 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
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ask any auburn fan at the begginning of last year what they think of cambell-they would have said-dumb!!! wasted talent...similar to what we say about brooks
baronm is on target here. I\'m a Tide fan, but had the unenviable experience of having a lot of Auburn fans over for Saturday football, and (at least at the time) they all hated Campbell. Obviously, opinions changed when he started really piling up the W\'s, but most Auburn fans were \"mixed\" at best on their reviews of Campbell before the 2004 season.

Could be that he finally \"got it\" and that he\'s a diamond in the rough, but I remain leary of him. In the end, a second round pick isn\'t necessarily too high for him, but the Saints simply have greater needs. I\'m not satisfied with AB, but I\'m willing to concede that we need to look at the defensive side of the ball first.

Due to a solid (and underestimated) defense, Campbell rarely played from behind in 2004. This is obviously beneficial to ANY QB, especially when he has the luxury of Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams in the backfield to eat the clock. Earlier in his college career, Campbell simply didn\'t show much when playing from behind (as he\'d likely be doing OFTEN with the Saints defense). If nothing else complimentary can be said about AB, it often seems to fall his way when playing from behind. Call it luck, or whatever...

I don\'t really have a fair opinion of A. McPherson (I\'ve already admitted I know very little about him). Would you say he\'s better than Campbell?


saintswhodi 04-11-2005 08:18 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
Comparing Campbell and McPherson is like comparing Devery and Clayton from last year. It was said Clayton was the more polished but Devery had the better upside. Same can be said with McPherson and Campbell. McPherson has the better upside but at least as of his senior year Campbell is the more polished. Now McPherson has had the benefit of playing professionally in the arena league, but his knock is not being a good pocket passer. Like I said, if McPherson can be had on the 3rd or 4th, then I pass on Campbell in the second as it is a better value.

mutineer10 04-11-2005 08:49 PM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
I think if Campbell\'s exorcised his demons, he\'d be a pretty good fit. He excelled in the play-action game, and assuming a healty Deuce and Smith were in the backfield, he could continue to impress.

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Now McPherson has had the benefit of playing professionally in the arena league, but his knock is not being a good pocket passer.
I\'ve always been a sucker for pocket guys (Marino, Montana, etc.), so I\'m already predisposed against somebody who\'s \"not a good pocket passer.\" Then again, I\'ve always been a fan of McNair, Plummer and McNabb, and they certainly don\'t fit the \"pocket passer\" mold. Guess it\'s like some said, it all depends on the system.



baronm 04-12-2005 08:08 AM

Peter King on Jason Campbell
 
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2004 Game Log Passing Rushing
DATE & OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA TD INT SACK RAT ATT YDS AVG TD
9/4 Louisiana Monroe Win 31-0 11 18 110 61.1 6.1 2 1 1 138.0 3 -3 -1.0 0
9/11 @Mississippi St. Win 43-14 8 17 139 47.1 8.2 3 0 0 174.0 2 -10 -5.0 0
9/18 LSU Win 10-9 16 27 170 59.3 6.3 1 0 2 124.4 6 -9 -1.5 0
9/25 The Citadel Win 33-3 11 14 194 78.6 13.9 0 0 0 195.0 2 2 1.0 1
10/2 @Tennessee Win 34-10 16 23 252 69.6 11.0 2 1 1 181.6 2 -1 -0.5 0
10/9 Louisiana Tech Win 52-7 13 18 201 72.2 11.2 2 0 3 202.7 5 -15 -3.0 0
10/16 Arkansas Win 38-20 17 19 297 89.5 15.6 3 0 0 272.9 1 3 3.0 0
10/23 Kentucky Win 42-10 11 15 127 73.3 8.5 0 0 2 144.5 5 -18 -3.6 0
10/30 @Mississippi Win 35-14 11 22 234 50.0 10.6 1 1 0 145.3 5 4 0.8 2
11/13 Georgia Win 24-6 18 22 189 81.8 8.6 1 1 0 159.9 2 16 8.0 0
11/20 @Alabama Win 21-13 18 24 224 75.0 9.3 1 1 1 158.8 6 7 1.2 0
12/4 @Tennessee Win 38-28 27 35 374 77.1 10.7 3 1 1 189.5 13 57 4.4 0
We MUST be talking about different guys. LSU game over 50% completions, almost 60, 1 td 0 trunover sin a game the entire offense was held in check.

Against Tenn he completed nearly 70% 2 Tds 1 INT the first time.

Against Arkansas, 3 TDs no INTs 90% completion rate.

Against Georgia, 82% completion rate 1 TD 1 INT

Sec title game, 77% completion rate 3 Tds 1 INT

BCS bowl game. One Td one INT 69% completion rate. Those look like pretty big games to me and he did damn good.
get passt the stats and watch the game footage...
plus the game I was most talking about was the Bama game--and the bowl game where bad decisions by cambell cost us big time in both...overthrowing the ball in the end zone time after time, etc. Most of his stats were put up after ronnie and cadillac came up big...

I have absolutely nothing personal against cambell..just have watched every single auburn game the past 6 years....and the A-games and any practices I could go to....


I could be wrong-but one year players usually haven\'t \"turned it around\" they have played for the paycheck. Now cambell did well at the senior bowl-but was no where near the most dominating QB there...Another thing I\'m worried about is the fact that when cambell started having trouble and got popped he got shell struck--and lost his confidence...but like someone said-he turned it around his senior season..so the question on everyones\'s mind is-was it borgis or was it cambell? I tend to lean toward borgis and the rest of auburn\'s team being absolutely dominating....and I site (the first half of the bama game(the second half he was downright dominating himself and inmpressed the hell out of me), almost loosing to tennessee (esp. during the SEC title game) and the virginia tech game in which he goofed it up in the red zone so much v-tech stayed in the game.

as for MacPherson...Cambell is better than MacPherson--just the simple fact that he didn\'t get kicked off the team ups him in my book..though cambell is no where near the athlete that Macpherson is.


[Edited on 12/4/2005 by baronm]


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