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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I learned that Willie Snead is being phased out. Credit Brandon Coleman ... but I don't think Snead is 100% healthy ....

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Old 10-29-2017, 06:07 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
I learned that Willie Snead is being phased out.
Credit Brandon Coleman ... but I don't think Snead is 100% healthy.
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Old 10-29-2017, 06:11 PM   #22
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago

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I don't know how many times they went at him but I do know one of those wr caught one on him for a first down. All around he played a exceptional game. Crawley also played exceptionally well he just need to become just as aggressive tackling as pass coverage


Lattimore played a great game but Kendall Wright did catch a pass on him. The reason I know it was man cause Kendall went in motion and Lattimore followed. The play in question happen in 2nd quarter 3:41 on the clock. It was 1st and 10 on the 25 went for 13yards. Other than that Lattimore shut it down
Im not sure if that was man to man. Might have been a Cover 3.
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Old 10-29-2017, 06:46 PM   #23
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago

We've really got to figure out how to close out games offensively, seriously. I get that we want to run to burn clock, but it seems to me that doesn't necessarily mean we need to jam Ingram up the center. Can we do some misdirection (like we do earlier in the games)? Some end arounds, maybe a flea flicker, a faked end around, something??
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Old 10-29-2017, 06:53 PM   #24
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The Saints defense has to improve their gap discipline. They completely blew those two big runs. Howard for 50 and Trubisky for 46.

Without those two, the Bears were 61 yards on 29 carries for 2.1 yards per carry and completely outta the game.

The D dominated in the passing game. Trubisky was 14/32 for 164, 5.1 yards/attempt, 46.9 Passer Rating.

Instead, due to boneheaded gap coverage, they gave up 31 rushes for 157 yards at 5.1 yards/attempts.

Pathetic.
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I’m not mad about the two long runs the Bears broke. It happens. We sent the all out blitz and he just happened to slip away. We sold out for the safety and Howard was able to make us pay. **** happens when you’re playing aggressively.
Utah, that's a great observation; know one of those missed gap assignments was Onyemata, and he's got to do better in basic skills...

Without that run, we probably have great field position and another score; run defense gap assignment, responsibilities is Day One Basic...


Originally Posted by Rell&Gold View Post
Ken Crawley worries me in run defense and tackling
I'll live with it as long as his pass rating coverage is among league best; we've got this other guy who's coming off reserve, injured status...

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
I learned that Willie Snead is being phased out.
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And whenever he doesn't play, our O sucks on third down. 2-8 today.
If we're in fact preparing for life after Snead, get Carr active now; we're needing what Willie has given to extend drives on 3rd downs...

Don't get how we're using Tommylea Lewis in vertical games where he lacks vertical speed and is giving up over a foot in reach just seems asinine...

We should be using him underneath and swing routes, wearing down those linebackers and safeties for the bigger receivers to take advantage...
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Old 10-29-2017, 07:17 PM   #25
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago

And I know one other thing - Trey Hendrickson needs more snaps on passing downs - he's the goods...

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[QUOTE=jeanpierre;773035]And I know one other thing - Trey Hendrickson needs more snaps on passing downs - he's the goods...

I agree JP, i liked what i saw from him at the combine and florida atlantic highlights. Kid looks like he will be really solid with more playing time.
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FWIW, Trey Hendrickson combine numbers were equivalent to Myles Garrett. The talent is there.
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
Im not mad about the two long runs the Bears broke. It happens. We sent the all out blitz and he just happened to slip away. We sold out for the safety and Howard was able to make us pay. **** happens when youre playing aggressively.
I disagree, that ****'s unacceptable. The Saints rank 30th in the league allowing 4.9 yards per carry. It's one thing when a guy gets beat, that's football. It's another when a guy just blows his responsibility. This stuff is supposed to be worked out in preseason.

Dalvin Cooks had his best run of the season against the Saints
Amheer Abdullah had his best run of the season against the Saints
Johnathan Stewart had his best run of the season against the Saints
Brett Hundley had his best run of the season against the Saints
Aaron Jones had his best run of the season against the Saints
Jordan Howard had his best run of the season against the Saints
Mitch Trubisky had his best run of the season against the Saints

When it happens every three or four games, then it's "oh well, **** happens", when it happens all the time and 7 players in 7 games have had their best runs against us, it's a pattern.
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Old 10-29-2017, 09:21 PM   #29
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago

Another observation from today's victory, our kicking coverage looked like it has bounced back and gotten on track...

No. 34 Justin Hardee, a convert from RB to CB in progress, has really become an asset on the kick coverage units...

And that incredible punt by Morstead still has me just going WoW right now...
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Old 10-29-2017, 10:16 PM   #30
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"The Saints matched the Bears in the trenches"

This. This right here shows me our guys up front are real. We played classic football today and didn't get manhandled. We HAVE to learn to stop the run. I think adjustments can be made.
Also liked how they got Hill the ball. No graham but he's better than Fleener.
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