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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; From all the reports I\'ve studied, I think DJ is on par prospect wise with DJ Williams and Jonathan Vilma from last year. But after DJ I think there are several OLB\'s that are on par with Karlos Dansby from ...

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Old 04-13-2005, 10:00 AM   #21
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From all the reports I\'ve studied, I think DJ is on par prospect wise with DJ Williams and Jonathan Vilma from last year.
But after DJ I think there are several OLB\'s that are on par with Karlos Dansby from last years draft. I think he made a solid contributuion this past year with \'Zona didn\'t he?

As for the MLB\'s I don\'t see any prospects that equal Vilma. But its got a few on par with Courtney Watson. This is the year we should probably draft TWO LB\'s. I think we could still get a decent LB in the 3rd. Kinda like a James Allen with instincs or a Sedrick Hodge with nads.

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Old 04-13-2005, 10:29 AM   #22
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for the OLBs I think you summed it up perfect. As far the MLBs, I would give Crowder a step above Watson, despite the injury and character concerns, but I think you summed everything in this post into a few sentences. Quite impressed by the conciseness of your posts. LOL.
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:15 PM   #24
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Yeah, I guess I could see that point. I guess there are a lot of good LB\'s, just not great. The only point I was making was that our LB\'s are awful. I\'m not sold on Bockwoldt at all. Watson could be a good role player because what he lacks in talent, he makes up for with his great knowledge of the position. Rodgers doesn\'t have it anymore. Hodge is talented but is injured entirely too much. I guess the point I was trying to make is that we need to get some real talent in the linebacking corps. Maybe I understated the talent of this year\'s LB class, but I really think we need a young LB to build a defense around, a real IMPACT player.

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Old 04-13-2005, 12:21 PM   #25
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youth isn\'t the problem LOL. it needed a hartwell-pierce-sharper veteran presence imo.
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:33 PM   #26
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I wasn\'t making a point about youth. I\'m saying we need talent. And actually some people feel we do need youth and more speed: http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2027697

But i wasn\'t necessarily talking about youth, I was talking about getting TALENT, something our LB\'s don\'t have a lot of.
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agreed

thanks to any n all who post pay-for material too. anybody have espn insider for the full text of this article?

kinda fluff to say they need to draft someone to push allen while a paragraph above say neither bock or fisher is a capable starter. more precisely 2 lb\'s are needed. scary thing about this front office is remembering how many years was a quality cb needed before they went out and got one.
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From all the reports I\'ve studied, I think DJ is on par prospect wise with DJ Williams and Jonathan Vilma from last year.
But after DJ I think there are several OLB\'s that are on par with Karlos Dansby from last years draft. I think he made a solid contributuion this past year with \'Zona didn\'t he?

As for the MLB\'s I don\'t see any prospects that equal Vilma. But its got a few on par with Courtney Watson. This is the year we should probably draft TWO LB\'s. I think we could still get a decent LB in the 3rd. Kinda like a James Allen with instincs or a Sedrick Hodge with nads.
I\'d have to disagree a tad. DJ is clearly better than DJ Williams and Vilma. Clearly better instincts than DJ Williams. Better physical specimen and more raw talent than Vilma. He\'s not much better than either of them, but definitely a couple of notches above them. But hey, you are entitled to your opinion.

I\'d say Crowder has more potential than Watson. He\'s already more talented. Motivation is the key for him.
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haha LK i agree with you about the FO. and sorry about the ESPN insider article, i\'m new to b&g as you can probably tell. the article\'s title was \"Saints need youth and speed on D\"
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welcome aboard deucey. take your shoes off and make yourself at home, i have.

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i agree tomb. dj is a sure impact starter with the all pro potential. i think the rap on the avoiding blocks is nitpicking and might end up showcasing his lateral pursuit and pass coverage.

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