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Itís Time to Give Mark Ingram His Due

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintGup If you didn't want to speak out on it why did you? What was the point you made about Ingram by mentioning Kara's ypc? I have always thought he was never given the credit he deserves. ...

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Old 11-26-2017, 11:38 AM   #11
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Re: Itís Time to Give Mark Ingram His Due

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If you didn't want to speak out on it why did you? What was the point you made about Ingram by mentioning Kara's ypc? I have always thought he was never given the credit he deserves. He has a big heart, has been a good mentor to others and now, when he has been allowed to get into a rhythm, is producing. Of course it's the offense we run because if Brees was on 4,000 yards now do you think any running back would be a major part where yards are concerned? We are more balanced, we are not relying on Brees so it stands to reason our running backs are benefitting from it. Yes, it would have been preferable if you didn't speak out.
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:43 PM   #12
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Hey buddy, what did you use to hook all those? The B&G version of the "Pocket Fisherman"
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:44 PM   #13
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I hope you saw the "elite" Mark Ingram today. And did you see what the RB opposite him did? Ingram is not in the same ball park as Gurley, Bell, and Zeke and Kamara clearly outplayed him today. This game reminded me of the last few years where the offense is under pressure or the oline is struggling and we see the real Ingram. Had it not been for Kamara this would be like Detroit and Houston's outcomes the last two years. We still lost, but it was not a blowout.
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:47 PM   #14
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Our running game is the most important part of our team this week. We need to get our running game going. That can help us protect oru injured defense.
Our running game was indeed important. The defense played well though given the odds. I'm not impressed with this offense without good defense or Ingram facing the stacks.
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Old 11-26-2017, 08:29 PM   #15
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Like I said... We were out-COACHED today. Nothing more.
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Old 11-27-2017, 12:30 AM   #16
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These are the kinds of games superbowl teams win. Think the patriots or the Rodgers packers loses this game?

Outcoached is one thing, but that also says SP is not a good coach and he's only here because of the Brees/Payton connection. If Payton can't call a good game plan against well coached teams then I'm afraid this team will definitely not win more than one ring remaining.
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Old 11-27-2017, 01:06 AM   #17
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These are the kinds of games superbowl teams win. Think the patriots or the Rodgers packers loses this game?

Outcoached is one thing, but that also says SP is not a good coach and he's only here because of the Brees/Payton connection. If Payton can't call a good game plan against well coached teams then I'm afraid this team will definitely not win more than one ring remaining.
Not true, every team has a let down few games.

See 2009 loss to the Cowboys and the lowly Bucs, we won the super bowl a month later.
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Old 11-27-2017, 03:06 AM   #18
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Good grief, he is having a great season but this post is Ridiculous. AK has out played him all season even know this is MIís best in the league. He is 28 and has 2 years left on his contract. What the crap would we sign a 28 year old to a 5 or 6 year deal? He is losing carries to AK as the season goes on. AK is a beast and is the future in NO. Keep MI through these next two years and let him walk
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Old 11-27-2017, 03:28 AM   #19
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Isn't he a FA if he makes the pro bowl this year?
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Old 11-27-2017, 12:21 PM   #20
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Isn't he a FA if he makes the pro bowl this year?
Nope. Different trigger. It's either being in the Pro Bowl in 2016 and 2017 seasons or being named All Pro in 2017.

MI was not selected to the Pro Bowl last year. So the first trigger cannot happen even if he is selected this year.

As for All Pro, it's tough sledding when there isn't even definitive proof that he's the best back on his own team. What Payton said about Kamara is also true for MI:

The only thing that is holding back Kamara from ROY is me - Sean Payton
truth is neither of them is the man and to be an All Pro, you have to be the man.

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