You guys know more. Please explain why...

nola_swammi · 12-13-2017, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Why wasn't the hit of Kamra called as a helmet to helmet hit?

Why wasn't the eyegouge on Thomas called?

You can't tell me the refs missed BOTH of those... Or were they not penalties?

helmet to helmet contact is legal on running plays or after the reciever is declared not defenseless; however NO PLAYER can deliberately use the helmet as weapon by spearing

The only reason their was no call on the eye gouging is if the refs didn't see it. Which will be lame excuse cause his hands should be nowhere above the shoulders

The refs were obviously against us. No excuse for all the missed called when flags were coming out cause Rankin breathe too hard on Ryan & penality on LeRibeus that negated 3 pts

RockyMountainSaint · 12-13-2017, 03:08 AM

The shine is coming off of this "miracle" season.
JUST LIKE '09!!! LOL
Gotta blame someone.
The team wins more than seven games for the first time in four years and someone has to be blamed when they don't win every game!

Don't blame the same culprits.

PRAISE THEM for not being 7-9.

44Champs · 12-13-2017, 11:02 AM

My understanding is that an RB running w the ball is not a defenseless player, so that's why the call wasn't made. However, the eye gouge on MT should have definitely been a penalty.

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K Major · 12-13-2017, 11:15 AM

"Win, lose or draw, they are still kicking it off at 12 o'clock." - Herm Edwards. Direct all focus to the Jets.

12/24/2017 will be here soon enough.

73Saint · 12-13-2017, 11:32 AM

So true. All focus needs to be on the Jets

st thomas · 12-13-2017, 01:10 PM

no bodys bitaccthing here more than the fans of football in whole we've been itching for better officiating for years and its tumble salting our asrses

The Dude · 12-13-2017, 02:15 PM

Kamara was legit. Kamara had lowered his head and the defender didn’t lead with the top of his helmet. Idk why hands to the face wasn’t called on the eye poke. I also don’t know why the hit on Ingram’s back wasn’t spearing. Lot of bad calls but the Kamara hit was legit. I think it was intentional. We need to play just as nasty in the Dome.

WhoDat!656 · 12-13-2017, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

The Kamara hit, the dude didn't lead with his helmet. He lead with his shoulders square then his helmet made direct contact.
It wasn't deliberate.

It has a lot to do with what the player intends to do.
It was mostly a clean hit that freakishly landed into Kamara's brain.
It never looked like the defender deliberately hit Kamara in the head.

Michael Thomas - that was a deliberate eye poke They missed that.
Refs also missed a tons of holding calls by the falcon offensive line.

I agree, glad to get this one behind us. Tired of talking about it.

I have to disagree; Jones definitely lowers his head before tackling Kimara.
Can you imagine the crap storm the Saints would have endured if they treated this like the Seahwaks did with Russell a few games ago?

The Dude · 12-13-2017, 05:15 PM

I think Jones gets a pass from a lot of fans here because he’s from LSU. If he played for Ole Miss or Alabama and people here would be screaming for his head.
Legal, yes but it was intentional. He did it twice more.

Rugby Saint II · 12-15-2017, 01:20 PM

Kamara is now going to be running with a face shield. That's one less uncalled penalty to worry about now. The hit on Kamara looked legit to me with no ill intent. I don't believe he targeted Kamara's head.

12-13-2017, 01:46 AM	#11
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,626	Re: You guys know more. Please explain why... Originally Posted by homerj07 Why wasn't the hit of Kamra called as a helmet to helmet hit? Why wasn't the eyegouge on Thomas called? You can't tell me the refs missed BOTH of those... Or were they not penalties? helmet to helmet contact is legal on running plays or after the reciever is declared not defenseless; however NO PLAYER can deliberately use the helmet as weapon by spearing The only reason their was no call on the eye gouging is if the refs didn't see it. Which will be lame excuse cause his hands should be nowhere above the shoulders The refs were obviously against us. No excuse for all the missed called when flags were coming out cause Rankin breathe too hard on Ryan & penality on LeRibeus that negated 3 pts homerj07, Rugby Saint II and darksoul35 like this.

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RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: You guys know more. Please explain why... The shine is coming off of this "miracle" season. JUST LIKE '09!!! LOL Gotta blame someone. The team wins more than seven games for the first time in four years and someone has to be blamed when they don't win every game! Don't blame the same culprits. PRAISE THEM for not being 7-9. dizzle88 and bobdog86 like this.

12-13-2017, 11:02 AM	#13
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: You guys know more. Please explain why... My understanding is that an RB running w the ball is not a defenseless player, so that's why the call wasn't made. However, the eye gouge on MT should have definitely been a penalty. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk homerj07 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: You guys know more. Please explain why... no bodys bitaccthing here more than the fans of football in whole we've been itching for better officiating for years and its tumble salting our asrses

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: You guys know more. Please explain why... Kamara was legit. Kamara had lowered his head and the defender didn’t lead with the top of his helmet. Idk why hands to the face wasn’t called on the eye poke. I also don’t know why the hit on Ingram’s back wasn’t spearing. Lot of bad calls but the Kamara hit was legit. I think it was intentional. We need to play just as nasty in the Dome. homerj07, Rugby Saint II and darksoul35 like this.
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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,001	Re: You guys know more. Please explain why... Originally Posted by Halo The Kamara hit, the dude didn't lead with his helmet. He lead with his shoulders square then his helmet made direct contact. It wasn't deliberate. It has a lot to do with what the player intends to do. It was mostly a clean hit that freakishly landed into Kamara's brain. It never looked like the defender deliberately hit Kamara in the head. Michael Thomas - that was a deliberate eye poke They missed that. Refs also missed a tons of holding calls by the falcon offensive line. I agree, glad to get this one behind us. Tired of talking about it. I have to disagree; Jones definitely lowers his head before tackling Kimara. Can you imagine the crap storm the Saints would have endured if they treated this like the Seahwaks did with Russell a few games ago? homerj07 likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: You guys know more. Please explain why... I think Jones gets a pass from a lot of fans here because he’s from LSU. If he played for Ole Miss or Alabama and people here would be screaming for his head. Legal, yes but it was intentional. He did it twice more.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: You guys know more. Please explain why... Kamara is now going to be running with a face shield. That's one less uncalled penalty to worry about now. The hit on Kamara looked legit to me with no ill intent. I don't believe he targeted Kamara's head. 44Champs likes this.

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