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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Inconsistent. Great plays. Bad plays. Better than no great plays at all. Won't be a Saint next year....

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Old 12-19-2017, 08:27 AM   #31
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Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro....

Inconsistent. Great plays. Bad plays. Better than no great plays at all. Won't be a Saint next year.
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Old 12-19-2017, 10:37 AM   #32
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Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro....

If he wants $7 mill next year I'd say let him go get it.
Recently we've had to play a lot of 3 safety sets, primarily because of injuries/personnel. With depth in the def backfield now, he is a little bit more expendable.

might even get a comp pick in the deal (unheard of, I know)

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Old 12-20-2017, 02:24 AM   #33
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He seems to flip between the hero and the goat (and I don't mean greatest of all time). There just doesn't seem to be a middle ground for him.
Does that remind you of another safety we had, who now plays in the city of brotherly love?

I hope the FO doesn't overpay him, and rather try to find a true SS whether it be through the FA or the draft.

Still, I wouldn't be upset if they re-signed him at true market value.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:20 AM   #34
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For the Saints, KV is at his best when he is playing LB. He has the talent, but not the discipline to play a lot of coverage, and please do not ever line him up as the deep center guy in a cover 3. With that said, someone will overpay for him in free agency, and I just hope it's not another team in the NFC South. If he stays in the NFC South he will have at least 2 games per year that he is lights out.
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Old 12-20-2017, 07:01 AM   #35
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Inconsistent...only word I can think of
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Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro....

Curious how much of the groin injury is still affecting him? That could definitely slow him down a step or 2 in coverage.
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For the Saints, KV is at his best when he is playing LB. He has the talent, but not the discipline to play a lot of coverage, and please do not ever line him up as the deep center guy in a cover 3.
That's the problem, he's not a safety with coverage skills. He'll make a tackle or two at the line & a lot will praise him on having a good game. Yet some forget about the 5 passes he gives up or the stupid pass interference he commits in a game. He's average in the slot & even worse in deep safety zone. Here's my question ... Why pay a guy who plays decent in a LB role close up on the line? I wouldn't.

Eric Reid
Kemal Ishmael
Tavon Wilson
Morgan Burnett

All better viable safety options in 2018 FA.
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Old 12-20-2017, 10:18 AM   #38
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Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro....

Eric Reid is an interesting case. The 49ers have moved him to WLB because they preferred Jaquiski Tartt at SS. Curious to see if they invest in Reid to play that moneybacker role because if not hed be the ideal Vaccaro replacement.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:23 AM   #39
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Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro....

Inconsistency is a fair criticism...

Do believe he's still injured with the groin pull and that's limiting him in his coverage...

I'm all for improving the roster, but who's available that's better?
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:46 AM   #40
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post

I'm all for improving the roster, but who's available that's better?
I think over spending on guys in FA is over with now that Jeff Ireland is on board. Build through the draft (see Williams, Latt, Ramz & that cat named Kamara) if at all possible.

Kenny's upgrade could be entering the 2018 draft in a few months .
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