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saintsfan1976 02-06-2018 06:03 AM

Saints have big decisions at TE
 
Good article. Fleener should be cut this week. Hill and Hoo-man entering the last year of contracts. It’s time to make a move at TE.

I’m fine with Graham as a stop-gap to mirror Brees’s remaining years. The draft has three very intriguing players who should be there for us in rounds 1-3.

Hurst, Andrews, Fumagalli. All are tall with speed and range.


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triman 02-06-2018 06:12 AM

Re: Saints have big decisions at TE
 
Dalton Schultz is an interesting player that reminds me of Jason Witten. Great blocker with good hands

ScottF 02-06-2018 06:43 AM

Re: Saints have big decisions at TE
 
Cutting Fleener frees up 3, but also leaves 5 in dead money.

He is not awful, just not worth what he is getting. Wonder if his agent is smart enough to see that

saintsfan1976 02-06-2018 07:00 AM

Re: Saints have big decisions at TE
 
Fleener has had two years. Cut bait.

SmashMouth 02-06-2018 07:24 AM

Re: Saints have big decisions at TE
 
One more year for Fleecer, then cut bait.

SaintFanInATLHELL 02-06-2018 08:02 AM

Re: Saints have big decisions at TE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 791616)
One more year for Fleecer, then cut bait.

His contract is rightside up for the Saints now. $8 million cap hit if he plays for the Saints in 2018 vs $4.8 million dead cap if released. Likely thius offseason he'll be requested to take a pay cut and be released if he refuses.

SFIAH

K Major 02-06-2018 08:37 AM

Re: Saints have big decisions at TE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 791616)
One more year for Fleecer, then cut bait.

I can't see this happening. "Fleecer" is a goner in 2018.

ChrisXVI 02-06-2018 08:53 AM

Re: Saints have big decisions at TE
 
Just for reference here’s the financial ramifications of moving on from Fleener this year.

PRE-6/1 RELEASE
2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000
2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000

PRE-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000
2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000

POST-6/1 RELEASE
2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000
2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000

POST-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000
2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000

It looks like he’s an ideal candidate for a post-6/1 designation, but that doesn’t really help us in free agency this year.

ScottF 02-06-2018 09:23 AM

Re: Saints have big decisions at TE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 791624)
Just for reference here’s the financial ramifications of moving on from Fleener this year.

PRE-6/1 RELEASE
2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000
2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000

PRE-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000
2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000

POST-6/1 RELEASE
2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000
2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000

POST-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000
2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000

It looks like he’s an ideal candidate for a post-6/1 designation, but that doesn’t really help us in free agency this year.

It does if we make a hand shake deal with Brees and then make it official on June 2

ChrisXVI 02-06-2018 09:28 AM

Re: Saints have big decisions at TE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 791625)
It does if we make a hand shake deal with Brees and then make it official on June 2

I could be wrong, but I think if Brees doesn’t have a new contract by 3/14 we get hit with $18 million in dead cap.


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