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Old 04-27-2018, 11:04 PM   #111
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – NFL Draft, Day 2, 3

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 0 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill

FB (1) 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 33 - Trey Edmunds, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 27- Jonathan Williams, 00 - Boston Scott (R6, #201)

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Ted Ginn, 00 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 16 - Brandon Coleman (RFA), 14 - Travin Dural (FC), 11 - Tommylee Lewis, 00 - Josh Huff (FC)

SR (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr, 85 - Dan Arnold, 00 - Paul Turner (FC)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 79 - Bryce Harris

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner (FC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 62 - Nate Theaker (FC), 61 – Andrew Tiller (FC)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 76 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 00 - John Theus (FA 2018)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 00 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 00 - Alex Ellis FC

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 -Trey Hendrickson, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018), 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 00 - Alex Jenkins (FC/IP)

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Woodrow Hamilton

DE (2) 93 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, 00 – Jayrone Elliot (FC)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti (FA 2018), 59 - Shayne Skov (FC)

MLB (3) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson, 99 - Adam Bighill (FC)

WLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 45 - Sae Tautu (FC)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 00 – De’Vante Harris, 37 - Arthur Maulet, 00 – Bradley Sylve (FC), 00 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189)

SS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 00 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 31 - Chris Banjo, 34 - Justin Hardee

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 42 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 00 – Rickey Jefferson (FC)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 26 - P.J. Williams, 28 - Mykkele Thompson (FC)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)

Roster Count - Total: 79; Offense: 38; Defense: 38; Kicking: 3


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent/Futures Contract (FC)

Rookie

Injured

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Old 04-28-2018, 08:35 PM   #112
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:11 PM   #113
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – NFL Draft, Day 2, 3

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 0 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill

FB (1) 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 33 - Trey Edmunds, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 27- Jonathan Williams, 00 - Boston Scott (R6, #201)

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Ted Ginn, 00 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 16 - Brandon Coleman (RFA), 14 - Travin Dural (FC), 11 - Tommylee Lewis, 00 - Josh Huff (FC)

SR (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr, 85 - Dan Arnold, 00 - Paul Turner (FC)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 79 - Bryce Harris

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner (FC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 62 - Nate Theaker (FC), 61 – Andrew Tiller (FC)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 76 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 00 - John Theus (FA 2018)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 00 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 00 - Alex Ellis FC

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 -Trey Hendrickson, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018), 00 - Alex Jenkins (FC/IP)

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 70 - Mitchell Loewen

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence

DE (2) 93 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 59 - Shayne Skov (FC), 00 – Jayrone Elliot (FC)

MLB (3) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 51 - Manti Te'o, 56 - Michael Mauti (FA 2018), 99 - Adam Bighill (FC)

WLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 45 - Sae Tautu (FC)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 37 - Arthur Maulet, 00 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189), 00 – De’Vante Harris

SS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 00 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 31 - Chris Banjo, 34 - Justin Hardee

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 42 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 00 – Rickey Jefferson (FC), 00 – Bradley Sylve (FC)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 26 - P.J. Williams, 28 - Mykkele Thompson (FC)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)

Roster Count - Total: 85; Offense: 42; Defense: 40; Kicking: 3


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent/Futures Contract (FC)

Rookie

Injured

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Old 04-29-2018, 03:53 PM   #114
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Unless we start releasing folks, we've got room for five (5) UDFAs - the rest of the folks will be camp invitees...
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Well, we may not have a Pro-Bowl level Tight End on the roster, the competition should be pretty d*mn keen this summer...

Ben Watson vs Coby Fleener - at the very least, this may be what Fleener needs to shake the pixie dust out of his eyes...

Deon Yelder vs Josh Hill - Hill seemed to get off-track for a while and now we find out if Yelder was legit or a beneficiary of Mike White...

Nate Wozniak vs Michael Hoomanawanui - Hoo has stayed healthy only one season, a younger blocking TE could solve the availability issue...
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Well, we may not have a Pro-Bowl level Tight End on the roster, the competition should be pretty d*mn keen this summer...

Ben Watson vs Coby Fleener - at the very least, this may be what Fleener needs to shake the pixie dust out of his eyes...

Deon Yelder vs Josh Hill - Hill seemed to get off-track for a while and now we find out if Yelder was legit or a beneficiary of Mike White...

Nate Wozniak vs Michael Hoomanawanui - Hoo has stayed healthy only one season, a younger blocking TE could solve the availability issue...
And save cap $ by going younger and UDFA.
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And save cap $ by going younger and UDFA.
True. But most of our expensive TEs really aren't costing much or we don't have long-term commitments...

Trust will be the key theme for the Tight End position over the summer as we get ready for a SB run this Fall...
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
True. But most of our expensive TEs really aren't costing much or we don't have long-term commitments...

Trust will be the key theme for the Tight End position over the summer as we get ready for a SB run this Fall...
What if we cut Fleecer?
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What if we cut Fleecer?
Well, these are the questions I'm asking myself when considering that move...

First, is he an imminent threat, problem, or impediment to the team's success and chemistry?

Second, is there a currently a player available who would have more of an impact, even at another position, whereby that money could be spent?

Third, has the team, players, coaches, and support staff, done all it could to make him and this team better?

In so far as the first question, he hasn't necessarily been a problem, but some players may or may not have taken to him...

To the second question, the Saints were willing to give Fleener's pay slot to Jimmy Graham, but not a penny more, so there wasn't anyone else on the market better...

And to the last question, the Drew Factor doesn't seem to have helped Fleener and maybe Payton didn't draw a clear path plan for what he envisioned for Fleener with the Saints...

Would I have like to have upgraded Tight End? Yes.

Do I think the Saints should have maybe sweetened the pot for Graham? Possibly, but I respected their discipline (until they lost it in the Draft)...

He's an experienced Tight End who's biggest challenge is consistency - find that cause, see if it's fixable both on his and the team's part...

But let the competition play out and see if he's one of the Top 3 Tight Ends when we break camp...

Let him win or lose the roster spot at this point - don't keep it to "develop" another player - Jim Mora did that for the league for years...

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