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GumboBC 04-24-2005 03:34 PM

Anyone buying this about Alfred Fincher?
 
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His tackling skills and lateral agility make him a very interesting prospect. While some teams project him as a mid-rounder, there are very few middle linebackers in this draft with his upside. He has very good body control in the open and excellent hip snap to explode into ball carriers. His quickness to the edge lets him force the action back inside and he shows good awareness, handling the switch-off in zone coverage. In a 3-4 defense, he could be just as effective as Pittsburgh's Kendrell Bell or Baltimore's Ed Hartwell, two players that quietly go about their job but make the players around them look better.


FireVenturi 04-24-2005 03:36 PM

Anyone buying this about Alfred Fincher?
 
i really like this pick, i think he will start off the bat

Allen,Fincher,Watson

BrooksMustGo 04-24-2005 03:38 PM

Anyone buying this about Alfred Fincher?
 
Right now I\'m afraid he looks like Ruff pt 2.

But I\'d love to be suprised. As weak as our LBs are, we\'ll know what we\'ve got if he isn\'t in the starting lineup by week 1.

GumboBC 04-24-2005 03:42 PM

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Right now I\'m afraid he looks like Ruff pt 2.

But I\'d love to be suprised. As weak as our LBs are, we\'ll know what we\'ve got if he isn\'t in the starting lineup by week 1.
Is Courtney Watson that weak?

saintswhodi 04-24-2005 03:42 PM

Anyone buying this about Alfred Fincher?
 
Nope, i\'m not buying it, and we don\'t run a 3-4. :casstet:

GumboBC 04-24-2005 03:43 PM

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Nope, i\'m not buying it, and we don\'t run a 3-4. :casstet:
Didn\'t you want Hartwell? 3-4 ?

BrooksMustGo 04-24-2005 03:45 PM

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Right now I\'m afraid he looks like Ruff pt 2.

But I\'d love to be suprised. As weak as our LBs are, we\'ll know what we\'ve got if he isn\'t in the starting lineup by week 1.
Is Courtney Watson that weak?
Watson\'s ok, pretty sure he\'s only going to be playing 1 position at any one time though. ;) If Fincher can\'t win one of the other 2 spots, then we\'ll know what we have.

saintswhodi 04-24-2005 03:48 PM

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Didn\'t you want Hartwell? 3-4 ?
Yes I did want a PROVEN NFL stud instead of ANOTHER third round HOPE. James Allen, Sed Hodge, Cie Grant. 3rd round LBs. Add Fincher.

JKool 04-24-2005 03:50 PM

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BMG, I gotta disagree with you on this one.

MLB is a vetran position. That is, like WR, it has a slightly longer learning curve. It is a rare guy who can come in as a rookie and excel at that position.

I really think Fincher will play SLB for us, instead of Allen. If Fincher isn\'t starting by mid-season, then I might be more inclined to agree with you.

I still don\'t like the looks of: Bockwoldt, Watson, Fincher. We need a vetran player here (or at DT) or our defense is going to be in trouble regardless of the upgrades we\'ve got in our secondary.

baronm 04-24-2005 03:53 PM

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fincher is projected as our new SLB-or atleast to push for it.

so does allen move to wlb or does colby say there?

GumboBC 04-24-2005 03:55 PM

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Didn\'t you want Hartwell? 3-4 ?
Yes I did want a PROVEN NFL stud instead of ANOTHER third round HOPE. James Allen, Sed Hodge, Cie Grant. 3rd round LBs. Add Fincher.
Ed Hartwell Drafted: 2001, 4th Round.

I think all the LBs in the draft were \"hopes\" besides DJ.

JKool 04-24-2005 03:58 PM

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It doesn\'t really matter where Hartwell was drafted. What matters is that he is a proven, vetran player. I would not have been in favor of drafting Hartwell to shore up the 32nd ranked defense when he was drafted, but in FA (barring cost) I would have been more than pleased to get him THIS year.

saintswhodi 04-24-2005 04:00 PM

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Exactly Kool.

GumboBC 04-24-2005 04:02 PM

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It doesn\'t really matter where Hartwell was drafted. What matters is that he is a proven, vetran player. I would not have been in favor of drafting Hartwell to shore up the 32nd ranked defense when he was drafted, but in FA (barring cost) I would have been more than pleased to get him THIS year.
Agreed, JKool.

But let me ask you something.

Do all of you draft choices \"suck\" unitl proven otherwise?

Let\'s not use \"suck\" as an example. Do none of them \"upgrade\" our defense until they prove it? How do you look at it?

I mean, after Jamal Brown, that is.

JKool 04-24-2005 04:06 PM

Anyone buying this about Alfred Fincher?
 
There are two questions there:

1. Do you like the pick in terms of value, and
2. Do you like that players chance of upgrading the team.

Here\'s my take on all of them:
1. Brown. Yes on both.
2. Bullocks. No, Yes.
3. Fincher. Yes, Yes.
4. WR (I can\'t even remember his name). No, No.
5. McPherson. Yes, No.
6. Jefferson. Yes, No.

So, I think that given what is said about a player by professionals (like scouts and coaches) does give you a good idea of how a player will improve a team. This is how guys get ranked for the draft in the first place - so obviously they don\'t all \"suck\" or \"fail to improve the team\" until they hit the field.

That said, there is still an important difference between a vetran and a player that hasn\'t even seen the field in terms of the information available about them.

GumboBC 04-24-2005 04:16 PM

Anyone buying this about Alfred Fincher?
 
The draft is a funny thing. Most of the time the \"hyped\" superstars turn out to be pretty good. Quarterbacks excluded. There tends to be a higher % of busts at QB.

If you look around the NFL, there are a lot of low round draft picks on defense who are quality players. Like Ed Hartwell (4th round).

And the samething is true for offensive players too.

The point is ... anything after the first round is far from a given. Which is why they aren\'t drafted in the first round.

But, many of the 2nd, 3rd, and later round picks go on to have outstanding careers.

From what I\'ve read on our first 3 picks, all seem highly capable of making an impact this year.

Haslett is finally going after \"football\" players who appear ready to contribute.

Football isn\'t rocket science like it\'s made out to be sometimes. Many rookies make a big impact. It happens every year.

Like I said, I think all of our first 3 picks have a good shot of contributing this year.

That is ... unless they have to prove it to you first.

Since there is no proof ... there\'s really not much use in discussing them is it?

But, going by what I\'ve read ... I\'m encouraged. What else can you ask for?



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