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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; 1. Jammal Brown - B - can\'t forgive them for passing on DJ, but I actually had the Saints taking Brown on my draft board. I don\'t think we\'ll regret Brown, but we may regret snubbing DJ more. 2. Josh ...

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Old 04-24-2005, 05:53 PM   #11
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1. Jammal Brown - B - can\'t forgive them for passing on DJ, but I actually had the Saints taking Brown on my draft board. I don\'t think we\'ll regret Brown, but we may regret snubbing DJ more.

2. Josh Bullocks - D - probably could\'ve gotten him in the 3rd. I don\'t see how he fits here, we have Dwight Smith and Bullocks is probably too small to play SS. Confusing.

3. Alfred Fincher - B minus - another we probably could\'ve gotten later, but hey, at least it\'s a LB. Could be another Orlando Ruff, or maybe he can switch to SLB. Won\'t be hard for him to compete with this crew.

4. Ambulance Chaser Lyman - F - why do we need another injury-prone WR? Yet another who would\'ve likely fallen to the 5th or 6th rounds. May be a playmaker when healthy, but historically isn\'t often enough to make any difference.

5. Adrian McPherson - C - not a bad pick in the 5th. We all know about him. Says he just wants a shot ... I\'m willing to give him one.

6. Jason Jefferson - B - good pick in the 6th. Hope he wasn\'t influenced by his buddy on the D-line (Hawthorne), but looks like a solid depth guy. Like the LB corps, won\'t be hard for him to compete.

7. Jimmy Verndon - D - too small for DT, too slow for a pass rusher. Passed on Ernest Shazor, Ben Wilkerson and Junior Rosegreen to take this guy. Not likely we\'ll get the value outta this guy we got with last year\'s 7th (Bockwoldt), but who knows?

Overall: C, I like it far less than last years draft. Still ignoring needs, still making inexplicable picks. Yup, that\'s the average.

\"Ambulance chaser\" xrotflmao:
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Old 04-24-2005, 06:21 PM   #12
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Overall Grade - D+

Jamal Brown - (D) I\'m not giving Jamal Brown a D, because he\'s a great lineman. I\'m giving the decision to draft him a D because they drafted the wrong side of the ball. At first when the Saints first traded up to #13, I thought they were going to go after Derrick Johnson from Texas, but alas, I had to shout obsenities at my television for a third year in a row for not drafting a CB or LB. I\'m so dissapointed with this first pick, but perhaps drafting Jamal Brown will help the O-Line. Get ready for another year of teams running against us...

2. Josh Bullocks - (F) Where did this come from? I thought this guy was going to fall to at least the fourth round, but alas, the Saints amaze me again. I swore the Saints were going to move with Corey Webster or Kevin Burnett. I guess this was Mickey Loomis trying to save his job by picking the wrong defensive position.

3. Alfred Fincher - (B) He\'ll start with the terrible linebacker corps the Saints have been fielding for the past decade. This is the position I honestly thought the Saints were going with in the first round.

4. Chaser Lyman - (F) This guy won\'t be around long. Has anybody seen the laundry list of injuries this guy had in college (ankle, groin, hamstring, hip, appendicitis)? He had to sit out an entire season, and missed a TON of games during his college career.

5. Adrian McPherson - (F) I\'m highly against bringing this guy to New Orleans. Why bring a troubled player to New Orleans for crying out loud? Get ready to hear about Police Reports and mishaps in the city with this guy. He may be productive, but I would have gone elsewhere to develop a QB. I can see the need of finding a back up QB, but do you honestly think Brooks is scared of losing his job to him?

6. Jason Jefferson - (A) Perhaps a steal for a sixth round pick. If the Saints can get him to lose a bit of weight and develop a touch of speed (Ran a 5.2/40 at the combine), he may develop into a decent starter. Perhaps the first good pick the Saints made. Was Mickey Loomis not in the war room during this selection?

7. Jimmy Verdon - (C) Although he does lack size, I see this guy as a second string lineman for the next couple of years while developing. Could fill a void due to injury perhaps.

Overall Draft Grade -

D+ - I didn\'t see the reason for the positions that were drafted when they were drafted. I thought they would have gone LB, CB, then OL, but alas, I was proven wrong, again. This is by far one of the weaker drafts I\'ve seen in the past few years, but at least the Saints didn\'t draft a kicker in the second round (I.E. - NY Jets). I hope the Saints can make some more moves for the defensive side during free agency, but highly doubtfull. I expect yet another mediocre season coming up, perhaps a 7-9 or 8-8, unless the defense can over-achieve and the offense finally decides to play together.
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:00 PM   #13
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i will grade once the season begins if that\'s alright with the rest of you........................smitty
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:15 PM   #14
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1. Jammal Brown- (A-) If this is truly the guy you had at the top of your list, then you achieved your goal. The fact that he was the first tackle chosen in the draft further backs the claim that he was \"your guy\", instead of settling on the next best player.
2. Josh Bullocks- (D) I thought we had our special teams players covered. Good luck in being anything more.
3. Alfred Fincher- (C) Not completely sold this was the avenue to take. But I don\'t know enough of the guy to be for sure.
4. Chaser Lyman- (F) Who the hell? Was never on the radar.
5. Adrian McPherson- (A-) Loved it! I\'ve seen some arena league games he\'s played in and the guy is a specimen.
6. Jason Jefferson- (B) Damn good value for someone who was projected to go in the 4th. Need all the help we can get against the run.
7. Jimmy Verdon- (C+) He is what he is. A situational DE against the run. He will need some work, though.

Overall, I give it a (C) if you don\'t consider that we traded away our 3rd rounder for next year. (D-) if you do (gotta take it into account at some point, don\'t we?)

[Edited on 25/4/2005 by BlackandBlue]

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Old 04-24-2005, 07:41 PM   #15
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I think you summed up the same grades I\'d have given, BnB.

Add to that the dismally non-aggressive Free Agency, and I\'ll stick with an overall offseason grade of D.

I sincerely hope that there is more activity coming now that the draft is over. And if not.... it\'ll be a long season. With empty stands by the end of it.
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:55 PM   #16
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you know loe, (hey, that rhymes)....know low, get it? anyway, for some very, very, very sick reason........, i miss your avatar..........but please,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it\'s not..........and i repeat not, a reason to show it again.........it\'s just i have a few mexican guys that work with me and one of em is a dead ringer in drag..............anyway, i just can\'t look at him the same for some reason..........go figure.....kinda chilling, like the draft, ehhhhhhhhhh. smitty
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:57 PM   #17
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smitty........if that god-forbidden thing pops back up u are the first one we are coming to look for.lol
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Old 04-24-2005, 08:01 PM   #18
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lol, the thing i dread more, is with less clothes........lol
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Old 04-24-2005, 08:04 PM   #19
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Your wish is my command, smitty.

I post it in -grandiose- honor to Jim Haslett, celebrating the BEST SAINTS OFFSEASON since.... since..... Tuesday.

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Old 04-24-2005, 08:04 PM   #20
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thanks smitty........guess who the hell is back? LOE\'s frickin swamp thing!!!!!
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