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jeanpierre 04-05-2018 05:25 PM

If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 

foreverfan 04-05-2018 10:37 PM

Re: If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 
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Originally Posted by TheAvocate (Post 797854)
The picks are hard to argue against considering Thomas is one of the better receivers in the league, Lattimore was named Rookie of the Year, and Bell has become a solid contributor on defense.

Forrest Gump can tell you why you don't pick Ohio State players over LSU players...

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jeanpierre 04-06-2018 06:29 AM

Re: If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 
I don't know Forever, Saints have struck gold with those first two - the Bell pick was a big gaffe as it cost us two picks and mushroomed being that because one of those two picks to recover cost another two picks...

And New England used one of those four picks (WAS got two of the four) on an excellent guard in Joe Thuney and the other on WR Malcolm Mitchell - so I'm not real high on Vonn Bell at all...

Lattimore was a no-brainer, but waiting to the second round then taking Thomas was a shrewed move...

stickman 04-06-2018 09:38 AM

Re: If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 
While I would like to see some local players on the team, I don't want them to reach for one, or pass up a better player to take one.

You could point out a player in every draft that teams miss on. How many teams missed on Kamara last year?

jeanpierre 04-06-2018 11:03 AM

Re: If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 
Man, I grew up a Saints fan, in South Louisiana, loved all the SEC teams, but I still don't get why some people throw a hissy when the Saints don't draft an LSU player because he's from LSU...

K Major 04-06-2018 11:26 AM

Re: If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 
I feel the same way. If they are a fit & best player available on your board .. take em. Ole Miss, Vandy, Auburn, LSU, Alabama, Ohio State, Tulsa ... whatever. I'd select kids from Muddwater Tech (I made it up :dunce:) if I thought they could help the team :D .

Rugby Saint II 04-06-2018 02:06 PM

Re: If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 
Roll Tide!!! :P

billyt81 04-07-2018 01:23 AM

Re: If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 797895)
Man, I grew up a Saints fan, in South Louisiana, loved all the SEC teams, but I still don't get why some people throw a hissy when the Saints don't draft an LSU player because he's from LSU...

Stanley Jean Baptiste over Jarvis Landry and u cant understand a hissy? There have been countless LSU players missed by the Saints organization under Peyton
LSU fan says,"LSU has THE MOST players in the NFL and the Saints have zero of em. Cmon." It's a fair complaint. The Falcons and Bucs each have 2 LSU LBers. I'm not saying reach. Im just saying if there is a situation where it is a toss up, go with the Tiger. Perfect example was Vaccarro over Eric Reid. Vaccarro 6ft 4.6 40. Reid 6"2 4.6 40. Many ex Tigers say the best safety ever at LSU. Either him, Chad Jones or Laron Landry. The fans deserve another Hokie Gajan(RIP Hoss), Dalton Hilliard, Eric Martin.......etc. This year there are a bunch of Tigers I'd love. I guarantee you we could select a Tiger with every selection and have a great draft. I'm gonna chart which LSU players are available with each Saints pick this year and follow how each Tiger we miss compares to the guy we get. Plus, bring in more LSU undrafted free agents. I think there will be a couple or a few this year. And they are guys worth looking at. Russel Gage-probably wont get drafted and a great tough athlete. I see a Golden Tate tyoe WR. Darrel Williams RB might not get drafted(4.7 40). Super tough runner 235+lbs and led the team in catches. Think Khiry Robinson with outstanding hands who blocks like a FB. Kevin Tolliver-project player who shouldve stayed in school. Outstanding physical tools. Gotta put em together. Very possible free agent. Will Clapp-one of the SECs best O linemen last yr, a phenominal run blocker who can play guard and center. 3rd-7th rd pick. Donte Jackson-4.31 40. I dont love him but 5th rd or later, fastest player in the draft. Why not? Christian Locotoure led all SEC D lineman in tackles. Possible free agent. Derrius Guice wont be there at 27 or the league is nuts and if hes is there at 27 u gotta take him. Dont tell me what position we need more. Derrius Guice will be another Deuce McCallister. We drafted Deuce with Ricky Williams on the team who just ran for 1500yds and that worked out and if we pass on DJ Chark in the 3rd, Ill go crazy. Chark had more receiving yds than Mike Thomas their last yrs in college and is more athletic than Randy Moss was and he was a team captain at LSU-a very high character guy who would fit perfectly next to Mije Thomas plus he is a sensational punt returner and a ferocious run blocker. On a bunch of Guices long runs Chark was manhandling a corner, blocking him out the play. I love how the Advocate article names 2 guys from Ohio State who worked out so it's supposed to win this argument. One of our semi recent drafts like 2015 or 2016 or something doesnt have a guy left. Peyton is a great coach but drafting before last year was not his thing. Get me some dang Tigers!

AsylumGuido 04-07-2018 01:41 PM

Re: If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 797954)
I'm gonna chart which LSU players are available with each Saints pick this year and follow how each Tiger we miss compares to the guy we get.

That seems like an awful lot of work. What are you hoping to get out of it? Maybe I ought to do the same with N.C. State players.

WillSaints81 04-07-2018 07:21 PM

Re: If Saints Have A Bias Against LSU, So Does The Rest Of The NFL Against Their In-State Colleges
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 797954)
Stanley Jean Baptiste over Jarvis Landry and u cant understand a hissy? There have been countless LSU players missed by the Saints organization under Peyton
LSU fan says,"LSU has THE MOST players in the NFL and the Saints have zero of em. Cmon." It's a fair complaint. The Falcons and Bucs each have 2 LSU LBers. I'm not saying reach. Im just saying if there is a situation where it is a toss up, go with the Tiger. Perfect example was Vaccarro over Eric Reid. Vaccarro 6ft 4.6 40. Reid 6"2 4.6 40. Many ex Tigers say the best safety ever at LSU. Either him, Chad Jones or Laron Landry. The fans deserve another Hokie Gajan(RIP Hoss), Dalton Hilliard, Eric Martin.......etc. This year there are a bunch of Tigers I'd love. I guarantee you we could select a Tiger with every selection and have a great draft. I'm gonna chart which LSU players are available with each Saints pick this year and follow how each Tiger we miss compares to the guy we get. Plus, bring in more LSU undrafted free agents. I think there will be a couple or a few this year. And they are guys worth looking at. Russel Gage-probably wont get drafted and a great tough athlete. I see a Golden Tate tyoe WR. Darrel Williams RB might not get drafted(4.7 40). Super tough runner 235+lbs and led the team in catches. Think Khiry Robinson with outstanding hands who blocks like a FB. Kevin Tolliver-project player who shouldve stayed in school. Outstanding physical tools. Gotta put em together. Very possible free agent. Will Clapp-one of the SECs best O linemen last yr, a phenominal run blocker who can play guard and center. 3rd-7th rd pick. Donte Jackson-4.31 40. I dont love him but 5th rd or later, fastest player in the draft. Why not? Christian Locotoure led all SEC D lineman in tackles. Possible free agent. Derrius Guice wont be there at 27 or the league is nuts and if hes is there at 27 u gotta take him. Dont tell me what position we need more. Derrius Guice will be another Deuce McCallister. We drafted Deuce with Ricky Williams on the team who just ran for 1500yds and that worked out and if we pass on DJ Chark in the 3rd, Ill go crazy. Chark had more receiving yds than Mike Thomas their last yrs in college and is more athletic than Randy Moss was and he was a team captain at LSU-a very high character guy who would fit perfectly next to Mije Thomas plus he is a sensational punt returner and a ferocious run blocker. On a bunch of Guices long runs Chark was manhandling a corner, blocking him out the play. I love how the Advocate article names 2 guys from Ohio State who worked out so it's supposed to win this argument. One of our semi recent drafts like 2015 or 2016 or something doesnt have a guy left. Peyton is a great coach but drafting before last year was not his thing. Get me some dang Tigers!

We drafted Cooks in the first. And we already had Colston then, on his last legs though, in the slot. I do think we probably should have went for Ford in round 1 and then Landry or Robinson in 2.


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