Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft

AsylumGuido · 04-17-2018, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

In another year Rudolph and Jackson might be top 5 or top 10.

Bottom line, there are not 6 teams that need or can afford to take a QB in round 1.

Be curious to see who drops, ala Marino 1983, Rodgers 2005, and Mr. Bundchen

Odds are that in five years five out of the six top QB recruits will be no better than average and may have been delegated to back up status ... if still in the league. I agree with what Payton said, whether or not it was straight forward ... none of the QB's in this draft have the no miss flair of an Andrew Luck and Luck hasn't even been tearing it up.

vpheughan · 04-18-2018, 10:16 AM

Pretty sure Payton gave Mayfield a pair of those Black Plastic Glasses with the Fake Nose and Mustache to him to wear draft day!!

Rugby Saint II · 04-18-2018, 10:37 AM

Sean is investing all his draft picks in the O-line!

WillSaints81 · 04-23-2018, 07:12 PM

So are we trading up to the second pick or something?

nola_swammi · 04-23-2018, 10:19 PM

Besides Baker Mayfield, the rest of the QB prospects longevity in the league will be determine by the team and coach. Whoever is drafted besides Baker Mayfield to the Browns will have a max longevity in the league of 5 years at the most. Bad coach for a so called named QB whisper coach. Its going to take a QB with a lot of self esteem and dedication to survive the Browns unless the Browns make a move like the Rams. The three QBs left the Rams (Bradford,Foles & Keenum) were hot commodities this offseason and fourth (Goff) resurrected his career. It took the rams leaving ST. Louis to Los Angeles for Eric Dickerson to call out Fisher as a bad coach. Three losing seasons should do it for Hue. With that being said I think our coach is playing chess and hoping Mayfield drop to us or low enough so he can trade up and scoop him up

Cruize · 04-24-2018, 07:34 AM

It's all about where players go and how they're coached. Nobody envisioned Brees would light it up like he did with Payton. Goff looked horrible until McVay came along. Foles has looked great twice in Philly under two Head Coaches and horrible in between. If the Browns take a QB, any QB, it's not going to end well. The organization is just the worst. If Jackson or Mayfield falls to and is chosen by the Saints, they will have the best chance at being great.

darksoul35 · 04-24-2018, 09:29 AM

I'm in the minority but I really want Jackson. He is a team first player with great character and unbelievably humble. Let him sit a few years behind Brees and he will be ready. I think he is by far the best QB in the draft I just hope he doesn't get drafted by anyone in our division.

K Major · 04-24-2018, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

I'm in the minority but I really want Jackson. He is a team first player with great character and unbelievably humble.

DK35 ... anything is possible & I wouldn't rule it out. A lot will depend on how things fall. The Saints want a QB but I haven't read or heard anything specifically linking Jackson to the Saints or his value vs the other "can't miss QB prospects".

Two more days ...

Side note - I'm not sold on Taysom Hill as the future QB in NO. He'll have to show a lot in training camp.

nola_swammi · 04-24-2018, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

I'm in the minority but I really want Jackson. He is a team first player with great character and unbelievably humble. Let him sit a few years behind Brees and he will be ready. I think he is by far the best QB in the draft I just hope he doesn't get drafted by anyone in our division.

I like Jackson also along with Mayfield, the only problem I have with drafting either is that I want to see Taysom Hill. Only the coaching staff know if Taysom the future. If not, I will be find with Jackson. After last draft I wont be second guessing their choices unless Ditka is seen in the warroom

AsylumGuido · 04-24-2018, 05:14 PM

I wouldn't want us to pick any of the QB's. I want players that will contribute to more Super Bowl wins. There may be the second coming of another great QB in four years or so that can truly take Brees' place. Until then let's pick up players that have a chance of seeing the field on a regular basis. At least Taysom Hill can play special teams. That's all we'll need out of a back-up for the next several years.

04-17-2018, 01:49 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft Originally Posted by ScottF In another year Rudolph and Jackson might be top 5 or top 10. Bottom line, there are not 6 teams that need or can afford to take a QB in round 1. Be curious to see who drops, ala Marino 1983, Rodgers 2005, and Mr. Bundchen Odds are that in five years five out of the six top QB recruits will be no better than average and may have been delegated to back up status ... if still in the league. I agree with what Payton said, whether or not it was straight forward ... none of the QB's in this draft have the no miss flair of an Andrew Luck and Luck hasn't even been tearing it up.

04-18-2018, 10:16 AM	#12
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,499	Re: Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft Pretty sure Payton gave Mayfield a pair of those Black Plastic Glasses with the Fake Nose and Mustache to him to wear draft day!! K Major and Thirty3 like this.
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04-18-2018, 10:37 AM	#13
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,722	Re: Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft Sean is investing all his draft picks in the O-line!

04-23-2018, 07:12 PM	#14
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft So are we trading up to the second pick or something?

04-23-2018, 10:19 PM	#15
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,626	Re: Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft Besides Baker Mayfield, the rest of the QB prospects longevity in the league will be determine by the team and coach. Whoever is drafted besides Baker Mayfield to the Browns will have a max longevity in the league of 5 years at the most. Bad coach for a so called named QB whisper coach. Its going to take a QB with a lot of self esteem and dedication to survive the Browns unless the Browns make a move like the Rams. The three QBs left the Rams (Bradford,Foles & Keenum) were hot commodities this offseason and fourth (Goff) resurrected his career. It took the rams leaving ST. Louis to Los Angeles for Eric Dickerson to call out Fisher as a bad coach. Three losing seasons should do it for Hue. With that being said I think our coach is playing chess and hoping Mayfield drop to us or low enough so he can trade up and scoop him up

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04-24-2018, 07:34 AM	#16
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04-24-2018, 09:29 AM	#17
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,022	Re: Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft I'm in the minority but I really want Jackson. He is a team first player with great character and unbelievably humble. Let him sit a few years behind Brees and he will be ready. I think he is by far the best QB in the draft I just hope he doesn't get drafted by anyone in our division. nola_swammi likes this.
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04-24-2018, 09:38 AM	#18
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,026 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft Originally Posted by darksoul35 I'm in the minority but I really want Jackson. He is a team first player with great character and unbelievably humble. DK35 ... anything is possible & I wouldn't rule it out. A lot will depend on how things fall. The Saints want a QB but I haven't read or heard anything specifically linking Jackson to the Saints or his value vs the other "can't miss QB prospects". Two more days ... Side note - I'm not sold on Taysom Hill as the future QB in NO. He'll have to show a lot in training camp. Barry from MS and darksoul35 like this.

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nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,626	Re: Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft Originally Posted by darksoul35 I'm in the minority but I really want Jackson. He is a team first player with great character and unbelievably humble. Let him sit a few years behind Brees and he will be ready. I think he is by far the best QB in the draft I just hope he doesn't get drafted by anyone in our division. I like Jackson also along with Mayfield, the only problem I have with drafting either is that I want to see Taysom Hill. Only the coaching staff know if Taysom the future. If not, I will be find with Jackson. After last draft I wont be second guessing their choices unless Ditka is seen in the warroom darksoul35 likes this.

04-24-2018, 05:14 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft I wouldn't want us to pick any of the QB's. I want players that will contribute to more Super Bowl wins. There may be the second coming of another great QB in four years or so that can truly take Brees' place. Until then let's pick up players that have a chance of seeing the field on a regular basis. At least Taysom Hill can play special teams. That's all we'll need out of a back-up for the next several years. darksoul35 likes this.