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Old 04-26-2005, 11:16 AM   #1
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Ravens strike gold with Clayton
By Randy Mueller
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As teams go back to the drawing board for Day 2 of the draft, here is a look back at some Day 1 highlights – from a front office perspective:

Analysis: First round | Second round | Third round | Day 2 look-ahead


Best move
The Saints gave up a third-round pick in 2006 to move up three spots and get ahead of Carolina to draft OLT Jammal Brown from Oklahoma. In doing their homework, the Saints knew the Panthers had Brown high on their draft board and that his toughness and passion were what John Fox & Co. were looking for.
No in-house consensus could be found regarding Alex Barron, the somewhat underachieving tackle from Florida State, so the Saints pulled the trigger, leap-frogged a division rival and beat them to the punch on Brown.

Surprise pick
If you'd have told me Jacksonville would have picked WR/TE Matt Jones (Arkansas) and OLT Kalif Barnes (Washington) in the first two rounds, I would not have batted an eye. It's how they got them that makes you shake your head.
Barnes was rated by most as a first-round tackle, most likely the third one to come off the board in the middle or end of the round. Jones, a project who has played about 20 plays at receiver, was supposed to be an option at 31 for Philadelphia. Instead, the Jags took a giant leap of faith and selected Jones at 21; somehow Barnes fell to them at 52 in the second round. It's like two pars in a row on the golf course for some of us. You don't have to describe it – just mark down two 4's.


Some things never change
With the 22nd pick in the first round, Ozzie Newsome, the Ravens' front-office guru, took this year's version of Ed Reed or Todd Heap – Mark Clayton from Oklahoma.
Clayton is a very polished receiver who will play early in his career and have people asking how Baltimore got him at 22. Sometimes it pays to not overthink your position in round one and just have patience. Ozzie is the master of that and may have struck gold once again with Clayton.


Intriguing pick of the day
When Matt Millen was quoted in a local paper last week as saying "by Saturday we will have no holes to fill," we should have known anything would be possible. With the Lions having a need or two on defense, Millen went against that conventional wisdom and drafted a falling star in WR Mike Williams from USC. It sounds great on paper, and Detroit will be a fantasy-football guy's dream, but let's see how Steve Mariucci handles the cries that are sure to follow about playing time and working in a three-receiver set more than 30 percent of the time.

Dilemma of the day
You could see this one coming a few miles away, but when speculation began late last week that Cal QB Aaron Rodgers might fall to the bottom of the first round, you figured things would get uneasy in Cheese-land.
With Brett Favre's future in limbo beyond this year, Packers fans are screaming for a plan to replace him. Unfortunately for head coach Mike Sherman and new GM Ted Thompson, they are also screaming for a legitimate defense to slow somebody down as well. With a first-year GM (armed with a long-term contact) and a coach entering the last year of his contract, the different timelines to win are obvious.

Rodgers might have been the best selection for the Packers as an organization, but I'm not sure it helps Sherman and his staff win games this year. That is what's called being stuck between a rock and a hard place if you're Thompson. Hopefully, Sherman gets an extension and everybody wins.


Greedy Bills
It has been no secret the Bills have wanted to trade disgruntled running back Travis Henry. The three most likely suitors were the Cardinals, Bucs and Eagles. Ouch, not so fast. All three teams drafted running backs on Day 1 instead of folding to the high demands of the Bills. Now, Buffalo must deal with Henry for 2005 or be willing to take a second-day choice this year or maybe a 2006 choice.
Stay tuned, Day 2 should be just as interesting.

Randy has something nice to say about the Saints? Could bygones be bygones? Come back Randy.
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:18 AM   #2
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Greedy Bills
It has been no secret the Bills have wanted to trade disgruntled running back Travis Henry. The three most likely suitors were the Cardinals, Bucs and Eagles. Ouch, not so fast. All three teams drafted running backs on Day 1 instead of folding to the high demands of the Bills. Now, Buffalo must deal with Henry for 2005 or be willing to take a second-day choice this year or maybe a 2006 choice.
Could he also have substituted greedy Bills for greedy Saints?
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:35 AM   #3
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Barnes was rated by most as a first-round tackle, most likely the third one to come off the board in the middle or end of the round
i\'m trying to get over it but DJ+Barnes still sounds better than Brown+Bullocks to me.

and on that greed thing...
i\'m still looking at draft board value charts- :seeingstars:
if had taken #31 from philly for howard,
THEN #31+#40 traded could have gotten DJ and Jammal Brown BOTH!
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:44 AM   #4
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Kelley, you mean we coulda had Brown, then gotten Ruud and Burnett or gotten DJ, then had Ruud and Barnes or Barnes and Burnett? You\'re killing me man. :weepy:
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And with next year\'s bumper crop of OT\'s, I could see us go LT in the 1st or 2nd. Err, assuming Stinchcomb doesn\'t work out.
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as things were burnett was on the board to be had (odell thurman too)! cowboys snapped him up 2 picks later. bullocks better be damn good and learn how to stuff a run behind these dt\'s and lb\'s.

killing YOU!? maybe ya are understanding the funk i have been in since saturday more then.

ps/ isn\'t a bullock a castrated bull?

even if they wanted bullock a top rated Lb coulda been had. what about getting brown and dj?! it was doable. the 2006 3rd to move up n get brown. #31+#40 can get you to #14 on the value charts, the carolina slot after houston. bam-bam, best LB and best OT. how would that have felt? ya see, i don\'t count the picks as they were as so terrible. most grade it B to C. but DJ AND JB, that would have been impressive. or any of those other combos LOL

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Building from strength on the Bullocks pick... keep saying it. If you say it enough times, you may come to believe it LK. You\'re just working yourself up again.

This thread made me sad. Brown, Ruud, and Burnett... damn.
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Kelley just made me sad too Kool. I guess I do see why he was in a funk. I was just pissed we didn\'t take DJ, but when you think about what we COULDA had :killtard:

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Old 04-26-2005, 12:24 PM   #9
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Well, normally I don\'t agree with this kind of thing, but draft picks haven\'t even seen the feild yet. I suppose I\'ll try and wait to be upset about this until I see what some of those rookies do on the field. Still, the hypothetical hurts a little.
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Old 04-26-2005, 01:47 PM   #10
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Still, the hypothetical hurts a little.
It shouldn\'t hurt, Kool. That whole line of thinking is based on IF Philly would have given up #31 for Howard. We have no reason to believe they would. So, why stop there? With that kind of an IF we could have had any pick in the first round.
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