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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Gumbo, I think what myself and WhoDat have been trying to say is that we want this team to succeed above all else. I\'m pretty sure WhoDat would let me speak for him when I say that we both want ...

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Old 04-27-2005, 03:36 PM   #21
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Gumbo,

I think what myself and WhoDat have been trying to say is that we want this team to succeed above all else. I\'m pretty sure WhoDat would let me speak for him when I say that we both want very badly for the Saints to win every game they play this year. However, what I don\'t think you understand is that 8-8 is not good enough. Also, 8-8 has created a sense of complacency among the FO and Haz. They are so caught up in their own little world that they don\'t realize what needs to be done. They don\'t go out and make a difference in the FA market. They don\'t pull any trades to try and put us over the hump. They have sat still with their thumbs up their butts for the past years. THEY HAVE NO SENSE OF URGENCY. I think that is what this team is lacking, something that the great teams like the Patriots, Eagles, and other possess. You know what? That disgusts me. They think that they can just keep doing what they have been doing and things will start to go their way. Well guess what, it hasn\'t. That\'s why I believe things have to change. Teams have to be aggressive and be assertive in trying to reach their goals, not just sit back and hope it falls in their friggin laps. That\'s why the Eagles went after TO and the Patriots went and signed Corey Dillon. What have the Saints done? Nothing but say they believe in their team. Well that just shows ignorance and stupidity. The way things are obviously can\'t cut it. Things need to change. Sure it\'s risky, but you know what, if you never try, then you\'re never going to get better. The Eagles might not have made it over the hump if they hadn\'t gone out and taken some risks by signing TO and Trotter (?). They were not content with just getting to the NFC championship. Sure, for most teams that would be a great season, but they wanted to be better than that. THis is just the opposite of what the Saints have been doing, except the Saints can\'t even get to the playoffs. We are content with an 8-8 team because we \"won our last 4 games.\" The FO and Haz are leaving in a dream world. I said this in another thread but go back and look at those last four games that we won that the FO is so proud of and is so confident about that they feel we don\'t have to change anything. The Dallas game, which I attended, didn\'t go in the Saints direction until late in the 2nd half. Also, it was the Cowboys, and they sucked major arse last year. The Bucs game was a good one, but the Bucs were AWFUL last year. The Falcons didn\'t start theyre best players, so that\'s not saying much about how good we played. The Carolina actually was a good game, but it was just that, ONE game. I\'m tired of this complacency and this acceptance of mediocrity. So yes, if going 0-16 this year will bring some changes that can take us over the hump and get us to the playoffs in the next few years, then I\'m all for it. Does that make me a bad fan? NO, it makes me a smart fan, because any smart fan would be tired of 8-8 seasons and near playoff misses and being called goofy by perhaps the goofiest man alive and being known by the whole league as underachievers. I want this team to go 16-0 and win the Super Bowl, but I don\'t see this regime taking us there. We need change. Like WhoDat said, nothing risked, nothing gained.
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Well said TheDeuce, and you did it without attacking anyone.
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Haha not bad for a college freshman huh?
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:12 PM   #25
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TheDeuce -- (and anyone else that feels the same way)

I keeping hearing you and others suggest that we would have been better off losing the last 4-games so Haslett and Loomis would be fired.

But ... then you same guys are rooting for Haslett and Loomis to take the Saints to the superbowl this year!!

See ... last year you guys wanted us to lose because: \"it was in the best interest of the team!\"

When, in fact, you really don\'t know if it would have been in the \"best interest of the team or not!\"

The real truth is that some of you just want a change for better or worse. Some of you guys are just sick of Haslett and the stupid decisions they make.

Yeah, you guys want the next Bill Belichick, but if there isn\'t one avaliable, then you just want SOMEbody else.

Sound about right???

Last year some of you guys wanted us to lose the last 4-games. Why? Because it was in the \"best interest of the team!\"

About 4-months ago, some of you wanted us to lose the rest of our games so Haslett and co. would be fired!

And 4-months later, the same guys are pulling for Haslett to make it to the playoffs!!

What a difference 4-months make!!

You guys know Haslett can\'t coach. You guys know Mickey Loomis isn\'t going to get the free-agents you want. You guys know Rick Venturi can\'t coach a defense.

Yet, you want them to have a winning season this year?

Is that in the best interest of the team?

Hey, we won a playoff game in 2000 with Haslett !! That bought 4 more seasons of 8-8.

You guys want one more playoff win followed by 4 seasons of 8-8?

Give me a break !!!

HOPE FOR AN 0-16 SEASON !!!




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[Edited on 27/4/2005 by GumboBC]
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:21 PM   #26
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Enough!!!!!
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