Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied)

05-09-2018, 11:31 AM

I hate this! At first I was thinking about the balance of tough running Ingram and silky smooth Kamara, and how this will change it for the first four games. Then I remembered we had Peterson at the beginning of the season last year, and it wasn't until later that we got the first glimpses of our dynamic duo. Maybe this won't be as bad as I was thinking.

Beastmode · 05-09-2018, 11:39 AM

I was thinking the same. We could have a more capable RB. Would not be the first time we found this out; PT, Kamara....it happens.

AsylumGuido · 05-09-2018, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

If mark had an exemption for the product why did the NFL hand cuff him if they know he would be set free ? Chew on that. Let your people get with my people and then we’ll schedule a lunch meeting in Tahoe . Mark I’m on your side till .

To be precise, the release doesn't say there was an exemption in hand. It said it was "a substance ... permissible with the proper use exemption". That was explaining that it wasn't any of the bad stuff. If they were fighting the case it may have something to do with a legality. Perhaps it was deemed necessary, but his agent screwed up on the submission of the paperwork. That could explain the abrupt firing of the agent. Unfortunately the fine-print says a retroactive submission can only be accepted if the was danger of mortality and such.

Garry42 · 05-09-2018, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

To be precise, the release doesn't say there was an exemption in hand. It said it was "a substance ... permissible with the proper use exemption". That was explaining that it wasn't any of the bad stuff. If they were fighting the case it may have something to do with a legality. Perhaps it was deemed necessary, but his agent screwed up on the submission of the paperwork. That could explain the abrupt firing of the agent. Unfortunately the fine-print says a retroactive submission can only be accepted if the was danger of mortality and such.

Good point! I read the statement closer after my earlier post and think you are correct. I originally read it to say he had an exemption. Guess that's why I'm not a lawyer.....

papz · 05-09-2018, 12:19 PM

Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL.

There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties.

Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter

44Champs · 05-09-2018, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's what I mean about reading crap and believing it. If it was marijuana wouldn't have been a PED suspension as the league clearly announce. Therefore, it is false. Don't believe everything you read, especially off instagram.

If you read your own post above, it says he was suspended for a NON-PED substance. That's why I think it would make sense that it was marijuana.

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jeanpierre · 05-09-2018, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL.

There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties.

Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter

Confirmed, second source...

73Saint · 05-09-2018, 12:38 PM

Bring AP back for 1st 4 games. Kidding.

jeanpierre · 05-09-2018, 12:46 PM

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AsylumGuido · 05-09-2018, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

If you read your own post above, it says he was suspended for a NON-PED substance. That's why I think it would make sense that it was marijuana.

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No. The league said the violation was "PED", not "substance abuse". PED is basically anything that is on the banned substance list and not an illegal substance or alcohol. Not all things on the banned list are truly "performance enhancing". Things like fertility drugs and hair-growth drugs are on there.

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05-09-2018, 11:39 AM	#112
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games I was thinking the same. We could have a more capable RB. Would not be the first time we found this out; PT, Kamara....it happens.
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05-09-2018, 11:41 AM	#113
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by st thomas If mark had an exemption for the product why did the NFL hand cuff him if they know he would be set free ? Chew on that. Let your people get with my people and then we’ll schedule a lunch meeting in Tahoe . Mark I’m on your side till . To be precise, the release doesn't say there was an exemption in hand. It said it was "a substance ... permissible with the proper use exemption". That was explaining that it wasn't any of the bad stuff. If they were fighting the case it may have something to do with a legality. Perhaps it was deemed necessary, but his agent screwed up on the submission of the paperwork. That could explain the abrupt firing of the agent. Unfortunately the fine-print says a retroactive submission can only be accepted if the was danger of mortality and such. Thirty3 likes this.

05-09-2018, 12:15 PM	#114
Garry42 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 785	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by AsylumGuido To be precise, the release doesn't say there was an exemption in hand. It said it was "a substance ... permissible with the proper use exemption". That was explaining that it wasn't any of the bad stuff. If they were fighting the case it may have something to do with a legality. Perhaps it was deemed necessary, but his agent screwed up on the submission of the paperwork. That could explain the abrupt firing of the agent. Unfortunately the fine-print says a retroactive submission can only be accepted if the was danger of mortality and such. Good point! I read the statement closer after my earlier post and think you are correct. I originally read it to say he had an exemption. Guess that's why I'm not a lawyer.....

05-09-2018, 12:19 PM	#115
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL. There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties. Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter

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05-09-2018, 12:35 PM	#116
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's what I mean about reading crap and believing it. If it was marijuana wouldn't have been a PED suspension as the league clearly announce. Therefore, it is false. Don't believe everything you read, especially off instagram. If you read your own post above, it says he was suspended for a NON-PED substance. That's why I think it would make sense that it was marijuana. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
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05-09-2018, 12:37 PM	#117
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by papz Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL. There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties. Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter Confirmed, second source... Twitter

05-09-2018, 12:38 PM	#118
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied) Bring AP back for 1st 4 games. Kidding.

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05-09-2018, 12:50 PM	#120
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by 44Champs If you read your own post above, it says he was suspended for a NON-PED substance. That's why I think it would make sense that it was marijuana. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk No. The league said the violation was "PED", not "substance abuse". PED is basically anything that is on the banned substance list and not an illegal substance or alcohol. Not all things on the banned list are truly "performance enhancing". Things like fertility drugs and hair-growth drugs are on there. 44Champs likes this.

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