Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now

Rugby Saint II · 06-14-2018, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Looks final now. This could turn out to be a good fit. He's 5'10", 225 lbs. From what I've seen, has good vision and hard to bring down. Good in a rotation, and probably didn't cost much.

I was reading that he probably signed for the veteran minimum. He may be insurance for Ingram's suspension but maybe his future as well.

voodooido · 06-14-2018, 12:57 PM

Still believe this looks bad for MI. They went from “no plans to bring in any vet rb’s “ to bringing in 4 in a week.

WillSaints81 · 06-18-2018, 12:06 AM

How does it look bad for MI by bringing in a trash RB like this?

They clearly don't want to bring in AP because if he comes in, and does well, it would not reflect well on Ingram.

CheramieIII · 06-18-2018, 06:57 AM

Everyone passed on Charles. West will just be an adequate replacement for Ingram the 1st 4 games and I would not be surprise to see Ingram traded for some draft picks before the trade deadline.

K Major · 06-18-2018, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Everyone passed on Charles. West will just be an adequate replacement for Ingram the 1st 4 games and I would not be surprise to see Ingram traded for some draft picks before the trade deadline.

Highly, highly improbable.

Beastmode · 06-18-2018, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Highly, highly improbable.

Why is improbable? I'll tell you why it's not. One, he won't be here next year and will be a non factor early on. Second, if the run game is working great without him, why not trade him and start building picks to bundle to get back in the 1st. If a team is willing to over value him for say a second and something else have to entertain it.

I'm not saying we should and hope we don't but to say it's not on the table, bringing in all these RB's....looks somewhat probable.

K Major · 06-18-2018, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Why is improbable? I'll tell you why it's not. One, he won't be here next year and will be a non factor early on. Second, if the run game is working great without him, why not trade him and start building picks to bundle to get back in the 1st. If a team is willing to over value him for say a second and something else have to entertain it.

See previous post by Guido.

For whatever reason, a lot of posters have undervalued MI and his production over the years. Possibly because we traded back in the first to get him? Many here have already joined the lynch mob with Davenport & we haven't even hit training camp yet.

Ingram is a HUGE part of the reason why we won 11 games last season & what we are trying to accomplish this year. If you want to compete with the heavy weights in January (Philly, MN, GB, Rams) 2019, the Saints need MI. Anyone who thinks we can win with AK & a bunch of unknown, unproven backs ... your being short sighted.

Win now mode. Repeat, win now. Next season, totally different conversation as it relates to Mark.

jnormand · 06-18-2018, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Why is improbable? I'll tell you why it's not. One, he won't be here next year and will be a non factor early on. Second, if the run game is working great without him, why not trade him and start building picks to bundle to get back in the 1st. If a team is willing to over value him for say a second and something else have to entertain it.

I'm not saying we should and hope we don't but to say it's not on the table, bringing in all these RB's....looks somewhat probable.

What team would want to trade a 2nd round pick for a RB in the final year of his contract who isnt available for the first 4 games? They'd only be guaranteed this season before he was a FA again. Theres no guarantee he'd re-sign with them.

Beastmode · 06-18-2018, 11:05 AM

I don't know, maybe a team that loses their top RB's and were undefeated up until that point? I would totally try to get the best RB available if that was the case. Really hard to say what the worth of a RB will be in week 4 or 5 with injuries. If somebody was willing to take AP why would they not want MI.

voodooido · 06-18-2018, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

How does it look bad for MI by bringing in a trash RB like this?

They clearly don't want to bring in AP because if he comes in, and does well, it would not reflect well on Ingram.

Murray, Charles and West are far from trash. MI gets suspended in a contract year and has been MIA since. No way we resign him. Too many big names coming up for us to re-sign. He will play out this year unless we trade him. Either way he is on his way out.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,727	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now Originally Posted by turbo_dog Looks final now. This could turn out to be a good fit. He's 5'10", 225 lbs. From what I've seen, has good vision and hard to bring down. Good in a rotation, and probably didn't cost much. I was reading that he probably signed for the veteran minimum. He may be insurance for Ingram's suspension but maybe his future as well.

06-14-2018, 12:57 PM	#12
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,739	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now Still believe this looks bad for MI. They went from “no plans to bring in any vet rb’s “ to bringing in 4 in a week. Beastmode likes this.
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06-18-2018, 12:06 AM	#13
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now How does it look bad for MI by bringing in a trash RB like this? They clearly don't want to bring in AP because if he comes in, and does well, it would not reflect well on Ingram.

06-18-2018, 06:57 AM	#14
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now Everyone passed on Charles. West will just be an adequate replacement for Ingram the 1st 4 games and I would not be surprise to see Ingram traded for some draft picks before the trade deadline.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now Originally Posted by CheramieIII Everyone passed on Charles. West will just be an adequate replacement for Ingram the 1st 4 games and I would not be surprise to see Ingram traded for some draft picks before the trade deadline. Highly, highly improbable.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now Originally Posted by K Major Highly, highly improbable. Why is improbable? I'll tell you why it's not. One, he won't be here next year and will be a non factor early on. Second, if the run game is working great without him, why not trade him and start building picks to bundle to get back in the 1st. If a team is willing to over value him for say a second and something else have to entertain it. I'm not saying we should and hope we don't but to say it's not on the table, bringing in all these RB's....looks somewhat probable. voodooido likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now Originally Posted by Beastmode Why is improbable? I'll tell you why it's not. One, he won't be here next year and will be a non factor early on. Second, if the run game is working great without him, why not trade him and start building picks to bundle to get back in the 1st. If a team is willing to over value him for say a second and something else have to entertain it. See previous post by Guido. For whatever reason, a lot of posters have undervalued MI and his production over the years. Possibly because we traded back in the first to get him? Many here have already joined the lynch mob with Davenport & we haven't even hit training camp yet. Ingram is a HUGE part of the reason why we won 11 games last season & what we are trying to accomplish this year. If you want to compete with the heavy weights in January (Philly, MN, GB, Rams) 2019, the Saints need MI. Anyone who thinks we can win with AK & a bunch of unknown, unproven backs ... your being short sighted. Win now mode. Repeat, win now. Next season, totally different conversation as it relates to Mark. jnormand and AsylumGuido like this.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now Originally Posted by Beastmode Why is improbable? I'll tell you why it's not. One, he won't be here next year and will be a non factor early on. Second, if the run game is working great without him, why not trade him and start building picks to bundle to get back in the 1st. If a team is willing to over value him for say a second and something else have to entertain it. I'm not saying we should and hope we don't but to say it's not on the table, bringing in all these RB's....looks somewhat probable. What team would want to trade a 2nd round pick for a RB in the final year of his contract who isnt available for the first 4 games? They'd only be guaranteed this season before he was a FA again. Theres no guarantee he'd re-sign with them. K Major likes this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now I don't know, maybe a team that loses their top RB's and were undefeated up until that point? I would totally try to get the best RB available if that was the case. Really hard to say what the worth of a RB will be in week 4 or 5 with injuries. If somebody was willing to take AP why would they not want MI.
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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,739	Re: Saints sign RB West, pass on Charles for now Originally Posted by WillSaints81 How does it look bad for MI by bringing in a trash RB like this? They clearly don't want to bring in AP because if he comes in, and does well, it would not reflect well on Ingram. Murray, Charles and West are far from trash. MI gets suspended in a contract year and has been MIA since. No way we resign him. Too many big names coming up for us to re-sign. He will play out this year unless we trade him. Either way he is on his way out.
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