Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals

08-20-2018, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Garrett Grayson was closer to NFL ready than Taysom is. Surprises me how many people still want to wait and see with him. No one wanted to give poor GG the same benefit of the doubt.

I was thinking the same thing.

RailBoss · 08-20-2018, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I decided to look this up and I believe Taysom Hill might just have the smallest hands of any QB in the league at 8 3/4”. This would probably help explain the fumbling.

If he doesn't make it in the NFL he'd be a good candidate for President.

jeanpierre · 08-20-2018, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Garrett Grayson was closer to NFL ready than Taysom is. Surprises me how many people still want to wait and see with him. No one wanted to give poor GG the same benefit of the doubt.

No Grayson wasn't; and Grayson regressed while he was here as he had the benefit of going through three (3) full training camps...

Hill was picked up after Training Camp last season (Cut-down Day); so he's only had one Training Camp with the Saints...

Keep the record straight, accurate...

frydaddy · 08-20-2018, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

No Grayson wasn't; and Grayson regressed while he was here as he had the benefit of going through three (3) full training camps...

Hill was picked up after Training Camp last season (Cut-down Day); so he's only had one Training Camp with the Saints...

Keep the record straight, accurate...

OK, perhaps not more NFL ready, but certainly as NFL ready. Yet I recall most folks around here were ready to burn Garrett at the stake after his first training camp. Hell, even before. Taysom hasn't shown any sign of progression yet. I don't count the first preseason game where he came in against a bunch of scrubs who probably won't have jobs in the league in a couple weeks. Garrett's first preseason game was pretty similar. Came in at the end and looked competent. We all know how that turned out.. I'd be happy to be proven wrong about Taysom, but I don't see it. And I don't understand the man crush some folks have on him. He looked utterly and completely lost against Arizona. The moment was too big for him, and it was only a preseason game against a vanilla defense.

K Major · 08-20-2018, 02:21 PM

Whether Taysom has played in one game or 12, one thing I do know is that Coach Payton will not tolerate turnovers (3 fumbles & 2 lost) & not protecting the ball.

4 turnovers in a half is unacceptable at any level.

rezburna · 08-20-2018, 02:31 PM

Those fumbles were just silly. I can live with the first pick eventhough I feel like he should have thrown it as soon as the receiver broke on his slant...but the second one and those fumbles? Silly.

Thirty3 · 08-21-2018, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

Reminds me a little like Tebow... well maybe more than a little.

I thought the same with one exception. His balls don't fly like a duck. Dude can pass. Just needs reps and will turn out ok. Everything in life requires EXPERIENCE. Apply for a job lately? Experience is key. Taysom has the tools.

K Major · 08-21-2018, 09:24 AM

UDFA QB's who play on special teams become starting QBs pretty much never + Hill's hands are too small (see fumbles in p/s game #2). NFL Scouts/analysts make reference to these details for a reason. I just hope this kid isn't getting reps because he's athletic.

FYI, the great Drew Brees has 10+ inch hands.

vpheughan · 08-21-2018, 10:19 AM

IMAGINE IF D.S. AND THE MICKSTER PICKED LAMAR JACKSON INSTEAD? AT LEAST T.HILL DIDN'T COST A WHOLE BUNCH OF FIRST ROUND PICKS? YOUNG QB'S DRAFTED SINCE 2009 TYLER PALKO, SEAN CANFIELD, GARRET GRAYSON THE FREE AGENTS ACTUALLY TO MAKE OTHER ROSTERS CHASE DANIEL AND RYAN GRIFFIN

cars4dylan · 08-21-2018, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Garrett Grayson was closer to NFL ready than Taysom is. Surprises me how many people still want to wait and see with him. No one wanted to give poor GG the same benefit of the doubt.

You sir, win the prize for the absolute dumbest thing read on the internet for the day...HUZZAHHH!!!

GG couldn't find an open wide receiver with 3 to 1 WR to DB ratio.

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08-20-2018, 11:45 AM	#32
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I decided to look this up and I believe Taysom Hill might just have the smallest hands of any QB in the league at 8 3/4”. This would probably help explain the fumbling. If he doesn't make it in the NFL he'd be a good candidate for President.

08-20-2018, 12:02 PM	#33
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Originally Posted by frydaddy Garrett Grayson was closer to NFL ready than Taysom is. Surprises me how many people still want to wait and see with him. No one wanted to give poor GG the same benefit of the doubt. No Grayson wasn't; and Grayson regressed while he was here as he had the benefit of going through three (3) full training camps... Hill was picked up after Training Camp last season (Cut-down Day); so he's only had one Training Camp with the Saints... Keep the record straight, accurate... cars4dylan, Rugby Saint II and CharityMike like this.

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frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,947 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Originally Posted by jeanpierre No Grayson wasn't; and Grayson regressed while he was here as he had the benefit of going through three (3) full training camps... Hill was picked up after Training Camp last season (Cut-down Day); so he's only had one Training Camp with the Saints... Keep the record straight, accurate... OK, perhaps not more NFL ready, but certainly as NFL ready. Yet I recall most folks around here were ready to burn Garrett at the stake after his first training camp. Hell, even before. Taysom hasn't shown any sign of progression yet. I don't count the first preseason game where he came in against a bunch of scrubs who probably won't have jobs in the league in a couple weeks. Garrett's first preseason game was pretty similar. Came in at the end and looked competent. We all know how that turned out.. I'd be happy to be proven wrong about Taysom, but I don't see it. And I don't understand the man crush some folks have on him. He looked utterly and completely lost against Arizona. The moment was too big for him, and it was only a preseason game against a vanilla defense. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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08-20-2018, 02:21 PM	#35
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,030 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Whether Taysom has played in one game or 12, one thing I do know is that Coach Payton will not tolerate turnovers (3 fumbles & 2 lost) & not protecting the ball. 4 turnovers in a half is unacceptable at any level. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,650	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Those fumbles were just silly. I can live with the first pick eventhough I feel like he should have thrown it as soon as the receiver broke on his slant...but the second one and those fumbles? Silly.

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Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,251	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Originally Posted by RailBoss Reminds me a little like Tebow... well maybe more than a little. I thought the same with one exception. His balls don't fly like a duck. Dude can pass. Just needs reps and will turn out ok. Everything in life requires EXPERIENCE. Apply for a job lately? Experience is key. Taysom has the tools. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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08-21-2018, 09:24 AM	#38
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,030 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals UDFA QB's who play on special teams become starting QBs pretty much never + Hill's hands are too small (see fumbles in p/s game #2). NFL Scouts/analysts make reference to these details for a reason. I just hope this kid isn't getting reps because he's athletic. FYI, the great Drew Brees has 10+ inch hands. frydaddy likes this.

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