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tiggerpolice 05-20-2005 12:16 PM

OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD
 
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OUR TEAMS RECORD WILL BE THIS SEASON?

PLEASE VOTE & EXPLAIN YOUR DECISION.........

tiggerpolice 05-20-2005 12:23 PM

RE: OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD
 
I THINK WITH OUR O-LINE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE BALL...KEEPING OUR D OFF FIELD....AND WITH THAT EXTRA REST OUR D SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY AT A HIGH LEVEL LONGER.....ALSO MOST OF THE TEAMS WITHIN OUR SCHEDULE THIS SEASON ARE A LITTLE WEAK ON OFFENSE OR IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THEIR TEAM.....THIS COULD BE A GOOD YEAR FOR US......

o1higuy 05-20-2005 12:29 PM

RE: OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD
 
I think 10-6 is realistic given the parity in the NFC. I truly feel we have some of the most talented players at the skill positions in the NFC. It will be interesting to watch. I hope this turns out to be the case. I think if the new run first philosiphy works out, this will also help out our defense. When you constantly are 3 and out and cannot score in the first quarter, a lot of pressure is put on the defense. When your defensive talent is maybe just above mediocre, that will make them look horrible.

-RVD- 05-20-2005 12:34 PM

RE: OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD
 
12 - 4

If they don't let wins go to their head, 16-0.

ScottyRo 05-20-2005 12:43 PM

RE: OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD
 
9-7. It's hard to really say the team is going to be that much better without them having entered camp or anything. Let's see how the new offense playbook works out before we get too excited.

WhoDat 05-20-2005 02:08 PM

RE: OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD
 
The correct answer is 8-8, until they prove otherwise. :)

Danno 05-20-2005 02:37 PM

RE: OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD
 
Can't the exact same thing be said about every NFL team? They are what they are until they prove otherwise? Thats no fun, and its incorrect. Changes have been made, we play different teams, coaching philosophy has changed, other teams change.
Based on what I've seen us do, what other teams have done, our schedule, our coaching changes, our team chemistry, our late season success, I'd say barring injuries we should win anywhere from 9 to 11 games.
let me rephrase that. On paper this team looks like a 10-6 team plus/minus a game.

I'll say 10-6, until they prove otherwise.

no_cloning 05-20-2005 03:28 PM

RE: OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD
 
Pretty tough schedule ... they'll have to go 4-2 in the division to even get to 8-8 ... I agree with Danno: On paper this team (the players) looks like a 10-6 team ... Coaching staff is good for 2 extra losses ... 8-8 again.

Danno 05-20-2005 03:52 PM

Re: RE: OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no_cloning
Pretty tough schedule ... they'll have to go 4-2 in the division to even get to 8-8 ... I agree with Danno: On paper this team (the players) looks like a 10-6 team ... Coaching staff is good for 2 extra losses ... 8-8 again.

So you're saying we'll lose 6 of these 10?
NYG
STL
CHI
DET
GB
MIN
NE
NYJ
BUF
MIA

I don't see it that way.
5 we should be favored in
3 we should be dogs
2 should be a pick'em.

saintswhodi 05-20-2005 04:10 PM

Quote:

So you're saying we'll lose 6 of these 10?
NYG
STL
CHI
DET
GB
MIN
NE
NYJ
BUF
MIA
BUF toss up(probable loss), NYJ loss, NE loss, Min loss, GB loss, And I give us a chance to lose at least one of the four between STL, NYG, CHI, and DET. That would be 6 losses out of those 10. And Mia won't be a breeze either, new coach, stud RB, bad ass defense.

Danno 05-20-2005 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

BUF toss up(probable loss), NYJ loss, NE loss, Min loss, GB loss, And I give us a chance to lose at least one of the four between STL, NYG, CHI, and DET. That would be 6 losses out of those 10. And Mia won't be a breeze either, new coach, stud RB, bad ass defense.

LOL, Another pessimism bomb.

News Flash: No game is an sure win, therefore no game is a sure loss. Not one single game on our schedule is going to be a breeze. Of your 4 stated losses, odds are we'll win one or two of them. You can never be sure.

NYJ-Loss? nope, toss up. They have more questionmarks than we do.
GB-Loss? Nope, toss up. They are a team on the decline both on offense and defense.

Oh forget it. Its like talking to a wall. I give up.

Atlanta-Michael Vick- 2 Losses
Carolina-Great defense, great coaching- 2 Losses
Tampa Bay-Great draft, great DC, offensive coach getting his players - 2 Losses
New England-HA! Loss
Buffalo-Up and coming team with great D. Loss
Miami-Nick Saben, good defense, Ronnie Brown - Loss
New York Jets-Better coach, better QB, Loss
Minn-Awesome offseason, Loss
Green Bay-Better QB, better RB, Better defense, Loss
Detroit-team on the rise, coming together-Loss
Chicago-After Miami loss, and before bye week? Loss
St Louis-Better RB, better Defense, better coach, better QB,-Loss
NY Giants-Better QB, better RB, Better Coach, Better defense,-Loss

Yup, what was I thinking?
0-16 is obvious to anyone with a brain.

Tobias-Reiper 05-20-2005 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

BUF toss up(probable loss), NYJ loss, NE loss, Min loss, GB loss, And I give us a chance to lose at least one of the four between STL, NYG, CHI, and DET. That would be 6 losses out of those 10. And Mia won't be a breeze either, new coach, stud RB, bad ass defense.

LOL, Another pessimism bomb.

News Flash: No game is an sure win, therefore no game is a sure loss. Not one single game on our schedule is going to be a breeze. Of your 4 stated losses, odds are we'll win one or two of them. You can never be sure.

NYJ-Loss? nope, toss up. They have more questionmarks than we do.
GB-Loss? Nope, toss up. They are a team on the decline both on offense and defense.

Oh forget it. Its like talking to a wall. I give up.

Atlanta-Michael Vick- 2 Losses
Carolina-Great defense, great coaching- 2 Losses
Tampa Bay-Great draft, great DC, offensive coach getting his players - 2 Losses
New England-HA! Loss
Buffalo-Up and coming team with great D. Loss
Miami-Nick Saben, good defense, Ronnie Brown - Loss
New York Jets-Better coach, better QB, Loss
Minn-Awesome offseason, Loss
Green Bay-Better QB, better RB, Better defense, Loss
Detroit-team on the rise, coming together-Loss
Chicago-After Miami loss, and before bye week? Loss
St Louis-Better RB, better Defense, better coach, better QB,-Loss
NY Giants-Better QB, better RB, Better Coach, Better defense,-Loss

Yup, what was I thinking?
0-16 is obvious to anyone with a brain.

you know, you asked for people's opinions and then ridicule them because they don't agree with what you are saying...

.. if no game is a sure win, and no game is a sure loss, how can you..

oh never mind... where is the ignore button here?

Danno 05-20-2005 05:03 PM

Here's a thought, when you see the name "Danno" don't read it.
It works the same as an ignore button if used properly.

saintsfan1313 05-20-2005 05:29 PM

Look, a brand new format for the site, but still the same BULL$H|T between people!!!! I love it!!! Finally BNG is Back!!!!!

spkb25 05-20-2005 05:41 PM

i'll go with 10-6 just because i love to be let down

WhoDat 05-20-2005 05:55 PM

Danno - you're doing a fantastic job in your new role as white wizard!!!
http://www.blackandgold.net/site/ind...ghlight=wizard


Look man, I think that this team has the talent to be 11-5, maybe better. But it also has the coaching, discipline, and find a way to lose spirit that makes me think they can be 5-11. That said, whether you take the average, go by recent history, or simply ask, is there really any way the Saints will give me something other than the worst case - you come out to 8-8.

I just can't imagine a world with the Saints winning and an owner not threatening to leave. Sometimes I try to think about the late 80s and early 90s, but that just seems like a dream now.

Euphoria 05-20-2005 06:27 PM

Here is how I think the season will go down... I think its mostly in Sheppards hands. Mike feels he is going to make a name for himself. If he does well then we are in the playoffs. If not we are going to be sitting at 6 wins at best. The improvements on D are going to be noted but its Sheppard who this is going to make or break us.

lynwood 05-20-2005 06:28 PM

Tampa-2 wins we always play them hard
Carolina-2-I think we can sweep them this year. The whole Jake thing means another level of play.
Atlanta- we will split. We've played them close in past years.

That's 5 wins for the division.

NYG-Win-Eli still learning the hard way.
STL- win team on decline and weak offensive line. Martz will blow up.
CHI-win I forsee injuries on that team.Grossman is coming off injury and mushin is old. Bensen is new to nfl so expect a sprain.
DET- Loss This years Chargers
GB- Loss - old man goes out in style and is playing us in Lambeau
MIN- Loss-winable but Dante is a competitor
NE- Loss- you know why.
NYJ - Win-Their loss alowed us to not make the playoffs. revenge is sweet.
BUF- win-I don't know much about this team but it's a home game so advantage us.
MIA- Win - with or without ricky

So that's 11 wins if i counted correctly. i'll take a +/- 1

no_cloning 05-20-2005 06:47 PM

Compare the out-of-division schedule to last year's ...

2004 - 2005

San Diego (12-4) L - NE
Denver (10-6) L - NYJ
Seattle (9-7) L - NYG
Minnesota (8-8 ) L - MIN
St. Louis (8-8 ) W - STL
Kansas City (7-9) W - GB
Dallas (6-10) W - BUF
Arizona (6-10) L - DET
Oakland (5-11) W - CHI
San Francisco (2-14) W - MIA

Based on how well I expect our opponents to do this season, I'd say the schedule is slightly harder this year. That's why I think the divisional games are even more crucial this year. They need to win those games, ESPECIALLY in the dome.

saintswhodi 05-20-2005 07:52 PM

Good call tobias. Danno wants opinions, but only the ones that will blow smoke up everyone's ass. IF you don't pick 10-6 or higher, you are a pessimist. Someone remind me what our record is the last 4 years? 32-32? Every team in the division got better, Minn got better, last I checked Green Bay still had Favre and Green, NYJ was a playoff team last year and got Coles back, who is better than Moss. Yeah they look worse. They even have a kicker who can boom it. But listen to Danno everyone, 16-0, no even better 19-0 cause we will waltz through the playoffs and the Superbowl. Don't let that smoke being blown burn your ass though.

Danno 05-20-2005 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Good call tobias. Danno wants opinions, but only the ones that will blow smoke up everyone's ass. IF you don't pick 10-6 or higher, you are a pessimist. Someone remind me what our record is the last 4 years? 32-32? Every team in the division got better, Minn got better, last I checked Green Bay still had Favre and Green, NYJ was a playoff team last year and got Coles back, who is better than Moss. Yeah they look worse. They even have a kicker who can boom it. But listen to Danno everyone, 16-0, no even better 19-0 cause we will waltz through the playoffs and the Superbowl. Don't let that smoke being blown burn your ass though.

I got something you can blow up your ass.

Danno 05-20-2005 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat
Look man, I think that this team has the talent to be 11-5, maybe better. But it also has the coaching, discipline, and find a way to lose spirit that makes me think they can be 5-11. .

Ahh finally a point made. Not used to that. Usually its just "we suck". We can't beat anybody.

Yes you are right WhoDat. In my other post (team weaknesses) didn't you take my point to task about the talent on this team? I may be over-estimating the influence the new coaches may have, but I'm not overestimating the talent on this team. So you guys can choke on that ass-smoke for all I care.

Everyone was disappointed we finished 8-8. Why? Because we're better than that. If we had glaring weaknesses everywhere you'd think most would be surprised we won 8 games. But this team has been label under-achievers by everyone. You can't finish 8-8 and be labeled under-achievers unless you have the talent that could finish much better.

saintswhodi 05-20-2005 08:49 PM

Quote:

I got something you can blow up your ass.
No thanks. I got chaffed from the initial burst of Danno smoke. :wink:

CHACHING 05-20-2005 09:00 PM

Imma go with 11-5 jus because I love pain...
with ya all the way danno.......


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