Giants trading Eli Apple to saints

jnormand · 10-23-2018, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Yikes, don't know how to feel about this one. Guess we'll see.

Yeah isnt this guy a drama queen? He's a clown. Hope he got his clowniness out in NY. I don't see how he's considered an upgrade. I'm sure he's better than Crawley, but I wonder what kind of locker room problems he'll bring with him.

Doesn't seem like a Payton type guy. Weird....

Garry42 · 10-23-2018, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by jlaw8920

My wife is a Giants fan, so I tend to watch their games as well. When I heard the rumors about going after Apple, wasn't really sure what to think.

He is definitely better than Crawley. He does play well sometimes, but also see him give up plays, make bad decisions a few times a game. So, even though he is an upgrade, not sure if its worth giving up picks for him.

Apple did make a couple key plays last night, so there's that I guess.

I just dont see this being a significant upgrade. He has potential I suppose, but not seeing him being a difference maker today. Guess we see....

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brees84 · 10-23-2018, 11:57 AM

Eli Apple is not very good. (on the field)
Not sure he is good locker room guy either. Collins referred to him as a cancer in the interview...

frydaddy · 10-23-2018, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Yeah isnt this guy a drama queen? He's a clown. Hope he got his clowniness out in NY. I don't see how he's considered an upgrade. I'm sure he's better than Crawley, but I wonder what kind of locker room problems he'll bring with him.

Doesn't seem like a Payton type guy. Weird....

Apparently he has largely moved past that. I read a couple articles over the summer and Oak just posted a link to another one talking about his maturation. I just hope he has his head on straight when it comes to his play. Seems he's been better this year, but the jury is still out as far as I'm concerned.

jlaw8920 · 10-23-2018, 11:59 AM

For what its worth, below are ProFootballFocus grades for Lattimore, Crawley, and Apple this year...

Lattimore-
Defense: #58 CB
Coverage: #59 CB

Crawley-
Defense: #105 CB
Coverage: #101 CB

Apple-
Defense: #36 CB
Coverage: #41 CB

K Major · 10-23-2018, 12:00 PM

The Saints will get way more out of Apple than with that dumpster fire team up in NY did. From purely a football perspective, if anyone doesn't see this as upgrading at the position ... not sure what to tell you. Many considered Marcus Peters "cancer" as well. Too bad the Rams didn't think so.

I'm just glad the Saints made a move at a position of need & based on the details, we stole him for nothing.

frydaddy · 10-23-2018, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by jlaw8920

For what its worth, below are ProFootballFocus grades for Lattimore, Crawley, and Apple this year...

Lattimore-
Defense: #58 CB
Coverage: #59 CB

Crawley-
Defense: #105 CB
Coverage: #101 CB

Apple-
Defense: #36 CB
Coverage: #41 CB

I was about to post the same thing. Beat me to it.

papz · 10-23-2018, 12:05 PM

Now even though he's been really bad at football, I do like the move. Very low risk with big upside. Sometimes a player just needs a fresh start. Looking forward to see if we can get him playing up to his potential.

Lattimore-
Defense: #58 CB
Coverage: #59 CB

Crawley-
Defense: #105 CB
Coverage: #101 CB

They've been so bad at football too.

frydaddy · 10-23-2018, 12:08 PM

Biggest question mark is how quickly can he pick up the scheme? A guy like Patrick Peterson would've been plug and play immediately. Not so sure it'll be the same case with Eli.

saintfan · 10-23-2018, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Saints will get way more out of Apple than with that dumpster fire team up in NY did. From purely a football perspective, if anyone doesn't see this as upgrading at the position ... not sure what to tell you. Many considered Marcus Peters "cancer" as well. Too bad the Rams didn't think so.

I'm just glad the Saints made a move at a position of need & based on the details, we stole him for nothing.

Hopefully coming to a team with a winning record and history (for the last decade give or take) and a solid locker room will make a difference too. Am I grasping?

10-23-2018, 11:54 AM	#21
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Originally Posted by frydaddy Yikes, don't know how to feel about this one. Guess we'll see. Yeah isnt this guy a drama queen? He's a clown. Hope he got his clowniness out in NY. I don't see how he's considered an upgrade. I'm sure he's better than Crawley, but I wonder what kind of locker room problems he'll bring with him. Doesn't seem like a Payton type guy. Weird.... Barry from MS and 44Champs like this.

10-23-2018, 11:54 AM	#22
Garry42 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 785	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Originally Posted by jlaw8920 My wife is a Giants fan, so I tend to watch their games as well. When I heard the rumors about going after Apple, wasn't really sure what to think. He is definitely better than Crawley. He does play well sometimes, but also see him give up plays, make bad decisions a few times a game. So, even though he is an upgrade, not sure if its worth giving up picks for him. Apple did make a couple key plays last night, so there's that I guess. I just dont see this being a significant upgrade. He has potential I suppose, but not seeing him being a difference maker today. Guess we see.... Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk

10-23-2018, 11:57 AM	#23
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Eli Apple is not very good. (on the field) Not sure he is good locker room guy either. Collins referred to him as a cancer in the interview...
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10-23-2018, 11:58 AM	#24
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,947 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Originally Posted by jnormand Yeah isnt this guy a drama queen? He's a clown. Hope he got his clowniness out in NY. I don't see how he's considered an upgrade. I'm sure he's better than Crawley, but I wonder what kind of locker room problems he'll bring with him. Doesn't seem like a Payton type guy. Weird.... Apparently he has largely moved past that. I read a couple articles over the summer and Oak just posted a link to another one talking about his maturation. I just hope he has his head on straight when it comes to his play. Seems he's been better this year, but the jury is still out as far as I'm concerned.

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jlaw8920 100th Post Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 123	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints For what its worth, below are ProFootballFocus grades for Lattimore, Crawley, and Apple this year... Lattimore- Defense: #58 CB Coverage: #59 CB Crawley- Defense: #105 CB Coverage: #101 CB Apple- Defense: #36 CB Coverage: #41 CB saintfan, jnormand, leilung and 7 others like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,030 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints The Saints will get way more out of Apple than with that dumpster fire team up in NY did. From purely a football perspective, if anyone doesn't see this as upgrading at the position ... not sure what to tell you. Many considered Marcus Peters "cancer" as well. Too bad the Rams didn't think so. I'm just glad the Saints made a move at a position of need & based on the details, we stole him for nothing. lumm0x, jnormand, Rsanders24 and 3 others like this.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Now even though he's been really bad at football, I do like the move. Very low risk with big upside. Sometimes a player just needs a fresh start. Looking forward to see if we can get him playing up to his potential. Lattimore- Defense: #58 CB Coverage: #59 CB Crawley- Defense: #105 CB Coverage: #101 CB They've been so bad at football too. Rsanders24 and Barry from MS like this.

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frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,947 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Biggest question mark is how quickly can he pick up the scheme? A guy like Patrick Peterson would've been plug and play immediately. Not so sure it'll be the same case with Eli.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Originally Posted by K Major The Saints will get way more out of Apple than with that dumpster fire team up in NY did. From purely a football perspective, if anyone doesn't see this as upgrading at the position ... not sure what to tell you. Many considered Marcus Peters "cancer" as well. Too bad the Rams didn't think so. I'm just glad the Saints made a move at a position of need & based on the details, we stole him for nothing. Hopefully coming to a team with a winning record and history (for the last decade give or take) and a solid locker room will make a difference too. Am I grasping? K Major likes this.

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