Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats

Rsanders24 · 10-26-2018, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Take it FWIW (Ian Rap), but it appears unlikely we see PRob again this season. Ligament damage ... yikes.

Saints CB Patrick Robinson (ankle, IR) will undergo surgery this week.
It makes Robinson unlikely to return this year. He's dealing with ligament damage, which is a worst case scenario. Robinson was playing well before going down, so it's a hit to the Saints' secondary. P.J. Williams will pick up Robinson's snaps. Sep 26 - 9:13 AM
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Patrick Robinson needs ankle surgery
Sep 26 - 9:13 AM
Broken ankle lands Patrick Robinson on IR
Sep 25 - 4:42 PM
Robinson believed to have high-ankle sprain

Source : Patrick Robinson - New Orleans Saints - 2018 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

Man...I missed that somehow. Must have been a nasty break.

ScottF · 10-26-2018, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Take it FWIW (Ian Rap), but it appears unlikely we see PRob again this season. Ligament damage ... yikes.

Saints CB Patrick Robinson (ankle, IR) will undergo surgery this week.
It makes Robinson unlikely to return this year. He's dealing with ligament damage, which is a worst case scenario. Robinson was playing well before going down, so it's a hit to the Saints' secondary. P.J. Williams will pick up Robinson's snaps. Sep 26 - 9:13 AM
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Patrick Robinson needs ankle surgery
Sep 26 - 9:13 AM
Broken ankle lands Patrick Robinson on IR
Sep 25 - 4:42 PM
Robinson believed to have high-ankle sprain

Source : Patrick Robinson - New Orleans Saints - 2018 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

Not sure we will be bringing anyone back from IR this year.

Good rule, but hasn't helped us yet

saintsfan1976 · 10-26-2018, 11:43 AM

I would eventually move Crawley to cover the slot and Eli on the outside.

Crawley's quickness is under utilized on the outside. Eli's press ability should force QBs to hold the ball for another second.

If both hold true Dennis can blitz more hopefully resulting in pressures, sacks and ultimately turnovers

K Major · 10-26-2018, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I would eventually move Crawley to cover the slot and Eli on the outside.

Really sucks not having PRob.

Don't you want your better tackler in the slot role? I would say PJ is the better option (sound tackler) there but then I think back to his 2 missed open field tackles vs the Ravens & subsequent holding call on 4th down

.

This secondary will be tested big time on Sunday. Hopefully the game plan is to take away Thielan.

saintsfan1976 · 10-26-2018, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Really sucks not having PRob.

Don't you want your better tackler in the slot role? I would say PJ is the better option (sound tackler) there but then I think back to his 2 missed open field tackles vs the Ravens & subsequent holding call on 4th down .

This secondary will be tested big time on Sunday. Hopefully the game plan is to take away Thielan.

Robinson was hired to keep PJ on the bench and since his return I haven't seen much to convince me he won't be a liability as we face better QBs.

I could be very wrong but I didn't see Crawley as the sole problem. YES he gave up a lot but it seemed to be on coverage assignments where the QB had all day to throw.

IMO, Crawley does better in a position where he can shadow a #3 WR. We'll see how it unfolds vs. Minnesota but I'd be surprised to see two things:
1. Apple not starting (at least as much as he can handle)
2. PJ survive the entire game at slot WR.

My hope is our secondary allows that extra second our d line needs to pressure Cousins.

ChrisXVI · 10-26-2018, 01:04 PM

I don’t think Crawley would be good at all as a nickel CB. He doesn’t strike me as a player with great awareness who could have quick hips in traffic.

ScottF · 10-26-2018, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Robinson was hired to keep PJ on the bench and since his return I haven't seen much to convince me he won't be a liability as we face better QBs.

I could be very wrong but I didn't see Crawley as the sole problem. YES he gave up a lot but it seemed to be on coverage assignments where the QB had all day to throw.

IMO, Crawley does better in a position where he can shadow a #3 WR. We'll see how it unfolds vs. Minnesota but I'd be surprised to see two things:
1. Apple not starting (at least as much as he can handle)
2. PJ survive the entire game at slot WR.

My hope is our secondary allows that extra second our d line needs to pressure Cousins.

Minnesota is ranked 25th running the ball, and our run D is first.
Can def expect 35+ throws from Cousins. Need to bend not break.

saintsfan1976 · 10-26-2018, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Minnesota is ranked 25th running the ball, and our run D is first.
Can def expect 35+ throws from Cousins. Need to bend not break.

He's averaging 42 attempts a game so far!!

saintsfan1976 · 10-26-2018, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don’t think Crawley would be good at all as a nickel CB. He doesn’t strike me as a player with great awareness who could have quick hips in traffic.

Neither does PJ Williams

ChrisXVI · 10-26-2018, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Neither does PJ Williams

You’re right about that. We don’t have someone who can excel in that role.

10-26-2018, 07:16 AM	#31
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,471	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by K Major Take it FWIW (Ian Rap), but it appears unlikely we see PRob again this season. Ligament damage ... yikes. Saints CB Patrick Robinson (ankle, IR) will undergo surgery this week. It makes Robinson unlikely to return this year. He's dealing with ligament damage, which is a worst case scenario. Robinson was playing well before going down, so it's a hit to the Saints' secondary. P.J. Williams will pick up Robinson's snaps. Sep 26 - 9:13 AM Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Patrick Robinson needs ankle surgery Sep 26 - 9:13 AM Broken ankle lands Patrick Robinson on IR Sep 25 - 4:42 PM Robinson believed to have high-ankle sprain Source : Patrick Robinson - New Orleans Saints - 2018 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com Man...I missed that somehow. Must have been a nasty break.

10-26-2018, 08:20 AM	#32
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by K Major Take it FWIW (Ian Rap), but it appears unlikely we see PRob again this season. Ligament damage ... yikes. Saints CB Patrick Robinson (ankle, IR) will undergo surgery this week. It makes Robinson unlikely to return this year. He's dealing with ligament damage, which is a worst case scenario. Robinson was playing well before going down, so it's a hit to the Saints' secondary. P.J. Williams will pick up Robinson's snaps. Sep 26 - 9:13 AM Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Patrick Robinson needs ankle surgery Sep 26 - 9:13 AM Broken ankle lands Patrick Robinson on IR Sep 25 - 4:42 PM Robinson believed to have high-ankle sprain Source : Patrick Robinson - New Orleans Saints - 2018 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com Not sure we will be bringing anyone back from IR this year. Good rule, but hasn't helped us yet

10-26-2018, 11:43 AM	#33
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,536 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats I would eventually move Crawley to cover the slot and Eli on the outside. Crawley's quickness is under utilized on the outside. Eli's press ability should force QBs to hold the ball for another second. If both hold true Dennis can blitz more hopefully resulting in pressures, sacks and ultimately turnovers

10-26-2018, 12:22 PM	#34
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I would eventually move Crawley to cover the slot and Eli on the outside. Really sucks not having PRob. Don't you want your better tackler in the slot role? I would say PJ is the better option (sound tackler) there but then I think back to his 2 missed open field tackles vs the Ravens & subsequent holding call on 4th down . This secondary will be tested big time on Sunday. Hopefully the game plan is to take away Thielan. saintsfan1976 likes this.

10-26-2018, 12:51 PM	#35
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,536 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by K Major Really sucks not having PRob. Don't you want your better tackler in the slot role? I would say PJ is the better option (sound tackler) there but then I think back to his 2 missed open field tackles vs the Ravens & subsequent holding call on 4th down . This secondary will be tested big time on Sunday. Hopefully the game plan is to take away Thielan. Robinson was hired to keep PJ on the bench and since his return I haven't seen much to convince me he won't be a liability as we face better QBs. I could be very wrong but I didn't see Crawley as the sole problem. YES he gave up a lot but it seemed to be on coverage assignments where the QB had all day to throw. IMO, Crawley does better in a position where he can shadow a #3 WR. We'll see how it unfolds vs. Minnesota but I'd be surprised to see two things: 1. Apple not starting (at least as much as he can handle) 2. PJ survive the entire game at slot WR. My hope is our secondary allows that extra second our d line needs to pressure Cousins.

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10-26-2018, 01:04 PM	#36
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats I don’t think Crawley would be good at all as a nickel CB. He doesn’t strike me as a player with great awareness who could have quick hips in traffic. saintsfan1976 and K Major like this.

10-26-2018, 01:09 PM	#37
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Robinson was hired to keep PJ on the bench and since his return I haven't seen much to convince me he won't be a liability as we face better QBs. I could be very wrong but I didn't see Crawley as the sole problem. YES he gave up a lot but it seemed to be on coverage assignments where the QB had all day to throw. IMO, Crawley does better in a position where he can shadow a #3 WR. We'll see how it unfolds vs. Minnesota but I'd be surprised to see two things: 1. Apple not starting (at least as much as he can handle) 2. PJ survive the entire game at slot WR. My hope is our secondary allows that extra second our d line needs to pressure Cousins. Minnesota is ranked 25th running the ball, and our run D is first. Can def expect 35+ throws from Cousins. Need to bend not break.

10-26-2018, 02:39 PM	#38
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,536 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by ScottF Minnesota is ranked 25th running the ball, and our run D is first. Can def expect 35+ throws from Cousins. Need to bend not break. He's averaging 42 attempts a game so far!!

10-26-2018, 03:07 PM	#40
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Neither does PJ Williams You’re right about that. We don’t have someone who can excel in that role. saintsfan1976 likes this.

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