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Euphoria 05-25-2005 12:54 AM

HORSE COLLAR TACKLE has been sacked.
 
NFL... Bans Horse Collar tackle.

saintswhodi 05-25-2005 09:03 AM

Not many people are happy about this, but I am. It'll be the same as the clothes line or the facemask, it will be a penalty, but some will still do it cause it's instinct. I never thought it was as big a deal as people made it out to be. It's not gonna water down the game or make it pansy, cause not that many guys did it anyway. One guy who used it more than others hurt FOUR people THIS YEAR, 2 with season ending injuries and one, if he wasn't TO, would have been out longer tha the 6 weeks he was. Next, let's hope they get rid of that crap ass cut block or chop block foolishness. But I am glad for the ban. Protect your players NFL.

Euphoria 05-25-2005 09:13 AM

I didn't see the tackle during the season all that much... I say more facemasking than that tackle.

saintswhodi 05-25-2005 09:16 AM

Exactly. It won't even be missed. One player specifically did it more than others. I don't even recall anyone on our team ever doing it. It's an insignificant rule change that won't effect much at all about the game, unless you are a Dallas fan or a Roy Williams fan.

lynwood 05-25-2005 09:51 AM

I'm neither a dallas fan or a Roy fan, but I didn't see too much wrong with the tackle. But it's gone so on with the game.

o1higuy 05-25-2005 11:16 AM

We need to work out a reasonable situation
 
Hope this hasn't been posted already.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

saintswhodi 05-25-2005 11:41 AM

Just a little more clarification on the rule:

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Tuesday's only headline at the owners meeting -- if that's the correct term -- was the passage of the new rule that makes the "horse collar'' tackle illegal and subject to a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty and potential fine. By a vote of 27-5, owners followed the lead of the competition committee and outlawed a defender dragging down a ball carrier by the back of the collar, unless he's in the tackle box near the line of scrimmage or a quarterback in the pocket.

The tackle became synonymous with Cowboys safety Roy Williams, because Williams injured three different players last season -- Owens, Ravens running back Musa Smith, and Tennessee receiver Tyrone Calico -- with just such a takedown. Competition committee co-chairman Rich McKay said overall there were six serious injuries league-wide attributable to the horse collar tackle.

"I don't like it being called the Roy Williams rule because he's a good football player and he did absolutely nothing illegal,'' said McKay, the Falcons general manager. "I don't like the perception that it's focused on one guy, because that was not our intent.''

So basically, not in the open field where all these injuries occured is the change.

ScottyRo 05-25-2005 11:44 AM

RE: We need to work out a reasonable situation
 
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"What would it take to keep it in New Orleans?" Benson said. "We need to work out a reasonable situation."
What is unreasonable about the situation as it is from Benson's perspective? I know why it sucks from the state's perspective. I can't believe he's actually interested in reasonable.

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Benson would not say what "reasonable situation" would be needed for him to stay in New Orleans
Of course, not. He can't very well say that the only way he'll stay is if we make him King of Louisiana. He probably wants the deed to the Mississippi river too.

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Benson brushed aside those comments by saying "lawyers sometimes talk too much,"
Is he just trying to get on my bad side or what? :x

Halo 05-25-2005 11:57 AM

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Do you guys have a link to an article or source? Try to link back to the article so everyone can read it.

All you have to do is copy the link from your browser and paste it into the post and it will show up as a link.
I found my link in another thread and merged the 2... same topic.

Euphoria 05-25-2005 01:26 PM

Injuries happen sure... but you need to decrease the risk for serious or career ending injuries. Anytime a player can grab - jerk and twist someone's body in an abrupt manner and can't defend themselves, you are in an increase risk for injury.

BooBirdSaint 05-25-2005 01:51 PM

I just can't understand why the NFL thinks there is a need for this rule? And don't give me that prevent "serious injury" line (when you run onto a field where players run 4.0 40's are are being chased and guys weigh in at over 300lbs butt heads for 90 mins serious injury is a foregone conclusion). What will be next? I think the owners are behind this rule for sure. By outlawing the "rundown" tackles scoring would likely increase. Sure everyone likes to see long catches or runs result in touchdowns but we like to see the touchdown saving grab also. I understand rules are a necessary evil but football is a contact sport. You know everyone on the board offen comments about our weak backfield but for gosh sake look at all the restrictions that they play under! No more contact beyond 10yd(?) from scrimage no face guarding no hand checks ect ect ect... No wonder CB's play for the ball so much. They are forced or regulated to by the rules. I don't think that these rules often help level the playing field either. Teams out of options when it comes to trying to containing the offensive theats that they face week after week. I just shake my head and tune into ultimate fighting... :cry:

saintswhodi 05-25-2005 02:13 PM

I know how you can get back at them Boo, stop watching football. Watch rugby instead. All the blood, eye gouging, nut grabbing, and anything else illegal you need. No rules over there. Just cut football from your life, with all their pansy rules. Who needs it right? It's not even worth watching. Yup, that's my suggestion. Move on to rugby. Football has nothing left for ya bro. :wink:

BooBirdSaint 05-25-2005 03:30 PM

:lol: whodi,
Good plan as watching an NFL game these days is a real time comitment these days! By the time you have all the (not so) instant re-plays, ref confrences and missed calls and rule interpations ect ect ect... Now I know why the miked the refs... they were running out of hand and arm signals to keep up with all the infractions! Rugby just is no pads, no helmets, & no teeth! :wink:

saintswhodi 05-25-2005 04:07 PM

LMAO!! There ya go bud. I think you just found your new sport. Good luck. :D


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