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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by BlackandBlue Atlanta's defense went from dead last to 14th in one season with minimum personnel changes. Why can't we? Hmmm, a defensive minded head coach, maybe? Jim L Mora? The one everyone ridiculed and laughed their arses ...

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Old 05-27-2005, 03:58 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
Atlanta's defense went from dead last to 14th in one season with minimum personnel changes. Why can't we?
Hmmm, a defensive minded head coach, maybe?
Jim L Mora?
The one everyone ridiculed and laughed their arses off at when Atlanta hired him?
That Jim Mora?
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:04 PM   #12
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This is getting fun. Who needs Billy? LOL

16-0. That's my prediction.

Aaron Brooks: 412 of 424, 5873 yards, 97 TDs, 1 INT, 0 Fumbles, 153 QB Rating
Deuce McAllister: 304 carries for 3,700 yards. 43 TDs, 1 Fumble.
Joe Horn: 169 catches, 3,128 yards, 53 TDs.

Sounds about right to me, how about you guys? Oh, and Saints defensive rank you ask? First, of course. All 11 guys go to the Pro Bowl, led by Sullivan who is inducted into the Hall of Fame, despite still being an active player.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:25 PM   #13
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Yeah, since we're taking shots,,,
1. Deuce comes in fat, (again). Gets hurt (again) in week 3 and Stecker/Smith are our RB's for the whole season
2. Brooks tears ACL diving for 1st down, Kingsbury enters as our starter in week 4.
3. Horns knees and Donte's hammy's resurface and Henderson proves he's not ready. WR's-Talman Gardner, Michael Lewis and Thyrone Anderson are now our starters.
4. Bryan Young gets hurt, forces Green/Jefferson/Leisle into starting roles.
5. Allen regresses and Hodge enters picture. Ugh.
6. Bockwalts progress was all hype. Starts the season at 218 lbs. Derrick Rodgers becomes starter.

0-16, yep. No question.

Then if we miraculously finish 8-8 with
QB-Kingsbury
RB-Antowain Smith
WR-Talman Gardner
WR-Thyrone Anderson
WR-Michael Lewis

I can say Ha-Ha. I told ya'll this was an 8-8 team". Proclaim myself as the poster of realism among the ignorant and naive.

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Old 05-27-2005, 04:28 PM   #14
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The one everyone ridiculed and laughed their arses off at when Atlanta hired him?
I believe we as Saint's fans were the one's that were laughing.
Who's laughing now?
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:33 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
The one everyone ridiculed and laughed their arses off at when Atlanta hired him?
I believe we as Saint's fans were the one's that were laughing.
Who's laughing now?
I thought it was a good hire and was ridiculed. But I'm used to it.

I believe Atlanta fans are the ones laughing now. And I have a really good idea who they're laughing at too.
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Old 05-27-2005, 05:07 PM   #16
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Do you guys wonder if Whodat and Danno are Saint fans or not? (i know i wonder)
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Old 05-27-2005, 06:06 PM   #17
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I hope all these 12-4 predictions are true, but here is some realistic syrum guys. 9-7 and miss the playoffs by one game. the offense can be in the top 5, but if the D still suks then so will our record.
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Old 05-27-2005, 10:57 PM   #18
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While I agree the Saints will be much improved this year, there are some question marks. Brooks isn't bad, but he gets this hype almost every offseason. Look at last year with Montana coming in to groom him. The coaches always say he is being more of a leader or is having a great off-season. I hope this year is the year for him. As far as the D goes.....it will be improved. I'm hoping within the top 15. The offense will be better. With the O-Line re-vamped, Deuce should get some good running lanes and AB should have some more time to throw the ball. The LB's are a big, big question mark. I hope Fincher ends up being a steal and Bockwoldt and Watson come alive. I think the Saints could have a 9-7 or maybe a 10-6 season. Playoffs----lets see how the cards play out. I go into this coming season as playoff contenders.

For the record, Danno and Whodat are Saints fans. That's why they are here. Some people don't have as much confidence in the team because the team hasn't earned it. Can't blame em.
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Old 05-28-2005, 02:41 PM   #19
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I know deep down there fans. I just dont understand always shooting down any positive about the team and the players.
We got the best team we've ever had and all you hear is AB suks, Deuce suks, the team suks, coaching staff suks. You'd think after watching all them years of us suking, people would like the team we have now. Out of all the years, we have the best chance to do something now, so i dont understand the hate.
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Old 05-28-2005, 07:12 PM   #20
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Natedogg it's not hate. Like I said, people are tired of hearing the same things over and over year after year. Fans need to see some results. While I consider myself an optimist and have a very positive and hopeful outlook before every season and almost every game, I even have to admit that this organization tends to make a lot of excuses and dosen't deliver enough. I think the Saints will be very good this year, but other people really need to see results to be believe. Like I said before, you can't blame some fans for being a little fed up with all the lolly gagging that goes on. Just don't take anything personal and keep your expectations and hopes high. You may be disgruntled at the end of the season but I think it's a lot more fun to have high hopes than no hope at all.

Like I said before, this team really needs to earn respect from its fans. Until the Saints show they are the real deal, the fan base will be split. The Saints can be frustrating at times.
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