Not to point out the negative about yesterday

The Dude · 11-19-2018, 02:36 PM

Before I get into the offense I have to give kudos to our D. 48 points wasn’t shocking but holding them to 7 is mind blowing. Their offense was supposed to be good enough to keep up with us. Golden Taint was a non factor and seeing turnovers was great.
Anyway, did anyone else notice a lot of confusion lining up on offense. Delay of game, false starts, forced time outs etc. seems like they were having a tough time getting on the same page at certain points. In the end it didn’t matter but that could kill us against a healthier D. Anyone else notice this? Is Payton getting too elaborate or confusing with his play calling?

AsylumGuido · 11-19-2018, 02:38 PM

Nope. Didn't notice it. I tend to concentrate on positives when my team demolishes an opponent 48-7.

SaintsBro · 11-19-2018, 02:41 PM

It looked to me like the normal Saints offense. There was one time out used in the first half where the play clock was winding down, but it was an important down anyway (I think it was a 3rd down on the edge of field goal range) and they had a comfortable lead, so no big deal there. Read the Peter King article today, a lot of things with the offense get sorted out in their meetings on Saturday night. Not bad at all, if they're able to be this good, by Drew and Payton picking out the best plays in the hotel suite, the night before the game. It's all good!

Papa Voodoo · 11-19-2018, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Before I get into the offense I have to give kudos to our D. 48 points wasn’t shocking but holding them to 7 is mind blowing. Their offense was supposed to be good enough to keep up with us. Golden Taint was a non factor and seeing turnovers was great.
Anyway, did anyone else notice a lot of confusion lining up on offense. Delay of game, false starts, forced time outs etc. seems like they were having a tough time getting on the same page at certain points. In the end it didn’t matter but that could kill us against a healthier D. Anyone else notice this? Is Payton getting too elaborate or confusing with his play calling?

I think they were experimenting since they were in a live game situation with an early win locked up. Essentially a practice session to work on different areas.

jnormand · 11-19-2018, 02:42 PM

I saw one play where Drew said, "I didn't get the play." He was smiling. The other stuff was probably due to Drew doing his normal checks prior to snaps. You've also got a very young WR core and even TE Arnold.

All in all, it was not a problem. And there were only 3 such times I saw it. When you're lining up a PS WR and TE with a rookie WR, it takes time to get in sync.

48-7...I dont see an issue man.

K Major · 11-19-2018, 03:24 PM

Didn't really see much or worth mentioning. Well played game by NO. In all phases of the game.

This is somewhat petty however in garbage time, Ken Crawley was flagged for pass int

. Luckily Banjo bailed him out with the INT to keep the Feagles off the board late.

Barry from MS · 11-19-2018, 03:48 PM

Like JNormand, lining up inexperienced WRs seemed to be the issue. Carr was fumbling around a few times getting lined up, too. It wasn't pass protection from what I saw. TQ, Carr, Arnold & Kirkwood are all younguns.

This offense has always given me stress taking the clock so far down & burning timeouts on offense and that was with experienced guys lining up over the years. I imagine all the personnel changes play-to-play is not easy.

We're fine. Just lots of moving parts.

Halo · 11-19-2018, 03:53 PM

I agree with the theory on new players.
I did notice an almost deliberate run down of the play clock on lots of plays.
Meaning, our offense runs on temp and we control it. The more the play clock ticks, the more time of possession we have.

TheOak · 11-19-2018, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Before I get into the offense I have to give kudos to our D. 48 points wasn’t shocking but holding them to 7 is mind blowing. Their offense was supposed to be good enough to keep up with us. Golden Taint was a non factor and seeing turnovers was great.
Anyway, did anyone else notice a lot of confusion lining up on offense. Delay of game, false starts, forced time outs etc. seems like they were having a tough time getting on the same page at certain points. In the end it didn’t matter but that could kill us against a healthier D. Anyone else notice this? Is Payton getting too elaborate or confusing with his play calling?

You and I probably just have a slight difference of opinion of what "a lot" means. For you its 1, for me its definitely always more than 1.

1 - Delay of Game
1 - False Start

Philadelphia Eagles @ New Orleans Saints - 11/18/2018 - NFL Penalty Stats Tracker - List/Statistics/Data of NFL Penalties - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018

Its probably worth noting that Crawley only played 11 snaps but was able to squeeze in a pass interference call.

vpheughan · 11-19-2018, 04:27 PM

In the end it didn’t matter but.............

I blame Payton, he's insane, doing "film studies and walk throughs" It's obvious the Eagles didn't use up precious energy with such nonsense!!!

11-19-2018, 02:36 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Not to point out the negative about yesterday Before I get into the offense I have to give kudos to our D. 48 points wasn’t shocking but holding them to 7 is mind blowing. Their offense was supposed to be good enough to keep up with us. Golden Taint was a non factor and seeing turnovers was great. Anyway, did anyone else notice a lot of confusion lining up on offense. Delay of game, false starts, forced time outs etc. seems like they were having a tough time getting on the same page at certain points. In the end it didn’t matter but that could kill us against a healthier D. Anyone else notice this? Is Payton getting too elaborate or confusing with his play calling?
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11-19-2018, 02:38 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Not to point out the negative about yesterday Nope. Didn't notice it. I tend to concentrate on positives when my team demolishes an opponent 48-7. foreverfan and westbankdaze like this.

11-19-2018, 02:41 PM	#3
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Not to point out the negative about yesterday It looked to me like the normal Saints offense. There was one time out used in the first half where the play clock was winding down, but it was an important down anyway (I think it was a 3rd down on the edge of field goal range) and they had a comfortable lead, so no big deal there. Read the Peter King article today, a lot of things with the offense get sorted out in their meetings on Saturday night. Not bad at all, if they're able to be this good, by Drew and Payton picking out the best plays in the hotel suite, the night before the game. It's all good!

11-19-2018, 02:41 PM	#4
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,628	Re: Not to point out the negative about yesterday Originally Posted by The Dude Before I get into the offense I have to give kudos to our D. 48 points wasn’t shocking but holding them to 7 is mind blowing. Their offense was supposed to be good enough to keep up with us. Golden Taint was a non factor and seeing turnovers was great. Anyway, did anyone else notice a lot of confusion lining up on offense. Delay of game, false starts, forced time outs etc. seems like they were having a tough time getting on the same page at certain points. In the end it didn’t matter but that could kill us against a healthier D. Anyone else notice this? Is Payton getting too elaborate or confusing with his play calling? I think they were experimenting since they were in a live game situation with an early win locked up. Essentially a practice session to work on different areas.

11-19-2018, 02:42 PM	#5
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Not to point out the negative about yesterday I saw one play where Drew said, "I didn't get the play." He was smiling. The other stuff was probably due to Drew doing his normal checks prior to snaps. You've also got a very young WR core and even TE Arnold. All in all, it was not a problem. And there were only 3 such times I saw it. When you're lining up a PS WR and TE with a rookie WR, it takes time to get in sync. 48-7...I dont see an issue man. Barry from MS, homerj07, 44Champs and 2 others like this.

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11-19-2018, 03:24 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Not to point out the negative about yesterday Didn't really see much or worth mentioning. Well played game by NO. In all phases of the game. This is somewhat petty however in garbage time, Ken Crawley was flagged for pass int . Luckily Banjo bailed him out with the INT to keep the Feagles off the board late.

11-19-2018, 03:48 PM	#7
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Not to point out the negative about yesterday Like JNormand, lining up inexperienced WRs seemed to be the issue. Carr was fumbling around a few times getting lined up, too. It wasn't pass protection from what I saw. TQ, Carr, Arnold & Kirkwood are all younguns. This offense has always given me stress taking the clock so far down & burning timeouts on offense and that was with experienced guys lining up over the years. I imagine all the personnel changes play-to-play is not easy. We're fine. Just lots of moving parts. jnormand and darksoul35 like this.

11-19-2018, 03:53 PM	#8
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,209 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Not to point out the negative about yesterday I agree with the theory on new players. I did notice an almost deliberate run down of the play clock on lots of plays. Meaning, our offense runs on temp and we control it. The more the play clock ticks, the more time of possession we have. jnormand and Barry from MS like this.

11-19-2018, 04:23 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Not to point out the negative about yesterday Originally Posted by The Dude Before I get into the offense I have to give kudos to our D. 48 points wasn’t shocking but holding them to 7 is mind blowing. Their offense was supposed to be good enough to keep up with us. Golden Taint was a non factor and seeing turnovers was great. Anyway, did anyone else notice a lot of confusion lining up on offense. Delay of game, false starts, forced time outs etc. seems like they were having a tough time getting on the same page at certain points. In the end it didn’t matter but that could kill us against a healthier D. Anyone else notice this? Is Payton getting too elaborate or confusing with his play calling? You and I probably just have a slight difference of opinion of what "a lot" means. For you its 1, for me its definitely always more than 1. 1 - Delay of Game 1 - False Start Philadelphia Eagles @ New Orleans Saints - 11/18/2018 - NFL Penalty Stats Tracker - List/Statistics/Data of NFL Penalties - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 Its probably worth noting that Crawley only played 11 snaps but was able to squeeze in a pass interference call. jnormand likes this.

11-19-2018, 04:27 PM	#10
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,499	Re: Not to point out the negative about yesterday *In the end it didn’t matter but.............* I blame Payton, he's insane, doing "film studies and walk throughs" It's obvious the Eagles didn't use up precious energy with such nonsense!!! jnormand, Danno and AsylumGuido like this.
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