Our Defense

rezburna · 11-23-2018, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

The thing that I've noticed is that when holding a lead (excepting Rams game) DA has allowed teams to score a 4th qtr TD.
The coverages he's called though aren't "prevent".
They are slightly more aggressive than that.
Sure, a team scores, but the drives have been lengthy and burn enough clock that it makes them basically useless.
A six minute TD drive in the 4th qtr when you are down by more than two scores?
By all means, have at it.

They’re bending but not breaking. I love it.

saintsfan1976 · 11-23-2018, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

They’re bending but not breaking. I love it.

and on top of that, they're making plays when they NEED to. Timely sacks. Strip fumbles. Batted passes. Passes defensed. They're doing it all.

dam1953 · 11-23-2018, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

As poorly as ATL played last night, they are still one of the better/high flying offenses in the league. Giving up 300+ yards to team when you've made em one dimensional ... I'll live with that.

Falcons are going to get yards on 90% of the defenses out there.

Historically, most passing records are set by losing teams. When you’re down 24-3 midway through the 3rd Q, and averaging less than 2 yards per carry on the ground, you’re only option is to throw, throw, throw. The problem is it’s not a secret. The result is 6 sacks, 2 QB fumbles, 1 pick and another game in the loss column.

dam1953 · 11-23-2018, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

As poorly as ATL played last night, they are still one of the better/high flying offenses in the league. Giving up 300+ yards to team when you've made em one dimensional ... I'll live with that.

Falcons are going to get yards on 90% of the defenses out there.

Atlanta struck me as a poorly coached team. Their clock mgmt Suuucked. When a veteran QB is behind 31-10 with 9:27 to play and your not running a 2 minute offense, something’s seriously wrong.

Danno · 11-23-2018, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Atlanta struck me as a poorly coached team. Their clock mgmt Suuucked. When a veteran QB is behind 31-10 with 9:27 to play and your not running a 2 minute offense, something’s seriously wrong.

True, but it looked like Dennis Allen was trying to keep everything in front, not a prevent but soft enough to give up short range plays and force them to eat clock.

Anyone else notice our offense is constantly waiting until the play clock is near zero before we snap the ball.

Our TOP must be great.

The Dude · 11-23-2018, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

True, but it looked like Dennis Allen was trying to keep everything in front, not a prevent but soft enough to give up short range plays and force them to eat clock.

Anyone else notice our offense is constantly waiting until the play clock is near zero before we snap the ball.

Our TOP must be great.

Yes I watched it close this week. Even when the clocks not running. They seem to be trying hard to be consistent with that. Timing was perfect this time.

NonieT · 11-23-2018, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

My question is; who is the "Field General" now that has replaced Vilma.
I'm thinking Cam Jordan is moving the D but still not sure.

https://www.neworleanssaints.com/vid...w-it-is-a-race

Cam Jordan said Sheldon Rankins makes all the calls on the Dline. They call him "Mastermind."
https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orle...922627cc2.html

The Dude · 11-24-2018, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

True, but it looked like Dennis Allen was trying to keep everything in front, not a prevent but soft enough to give up short range plays and force them to eat clock.

Anyone else notice our offense is constantly waiting until the play clock is near zero before we snap the ball.

Our TOP must be great.

Yes. Even when the clocks not running. They seem to be trying hard to be consistent with that. Timing was perfect this time.

11-23-2018, 01:32 PM	#31
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,650	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint The thing that I've noticed is that when holding a lead (excepting Rams game) DA has allowed teams to score a 4th qtr TD. The coverages he's called though aren't "prevent". They are slightly more aggressive than that. Sure, a team scores, but the drives have been lengthy and burn enough clock that it makes them basically useless. A six minute TD drive in the 4th qtr when you are down by more than two scores? By all means, have at it. They’re bending but not breaking. I love it.

11-23-2018, 02:15 PM	#32
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by rezburna They’re bending but not breaking. I love it. and on top of that, they're making plays when they NEED to. Timely sacks. Strip fumbles. Batted passes. Passes defensed. They're doing it all. Barry from MS likes this.

11-23-2018, 04:21 PM	#33
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by K Major As poorly as ATL played last night, they are still one of the better/high flying offenses in the league. Giving up 300+ yards to team when you've made em one dimensional ... I'll live with that. Falcons are going to get yards on 90% of the defenses out there. Historically, most passing records are set by losing teams. When you’re down 24-3 midway through the 3rd Q, and averaging less than 2 yards per carry on the ground, you’re only option is to throw, throw, throw. The problem is it’s not a secret. The result is 6 sacks, 2 QB fumbles, 1 pick and another game in the loss column.

11-23-2018, 04:26 PM	#34
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by K Major As poorly as ATL played last night, they are still one of the better/high flying offenses in the league. Giving up 300+ yards to team when you've made em one dimensional ... I'll live with that. Falcons are going to get yards on 90% of the defenses out there. Atlanta struck me as a poorly coached team. Their clock mgmt Suuucked. When a veteran QB is behind 31-10 with 9:27 to play and your not running a 2 minute offense, something’s seriously wrong. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

11-23-2018, 09:04 PM	#35
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by dam1953 Atlanta struck me as a poorly coached team. Their clock mgmt Suuucked. When a veteran QB is behind 31-10 with 9:27 to play and your not running a 2 minute offense, something’s seriously wrong. True, but it looked like Dennis Allen was trying to keep everything in front, not a prevent but soft enough to give up short range plays and force them to eat clock. Anyone else notice our offense is constantly waiting until the play clock is near zero before we snap the ball. Our TOP must be great.

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11-23-2018, 10:36 PM	#36
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by Danno True, but it looked like Dennis Allen was trying to keep everything in front, not a prevent but soft enough to give up short range plays and force them to eat clock. Anyone else notice our offense is constantly waiting until the play clock is near zero before we snap the ball. Our TOP must be great. Yes I watched it close this week. Even when the clocks not running. They seem to be trying hard to be consistent with that. Timing was perfect this time.
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11-23-2018, 11:05 PM	#37
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by RailBoss My question is; who is the "Field General" now that has replaced Vilma. I'm thinking Cam Jordan is moving the D but still not sure. https://www.neworleanssaints.com/vid...w-it-is-a-race Cam Jordan said Sheldon Rankins makes all the calls on the Dline. They call him "Mastermind." https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orle...922627cc2.html ScottF and Mr.Riaton like this.
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11-24-2018, 12:11 AM	#38
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by Danno True, but it looked like Dennis Allen was trying to keep everything in front, not a prevent but soft enough to give up short range plays and force them to eat clock. Anyone else notice our offense is constantly waiting until the play clock is near zero before we snap the ball. Our TOP must be great. Yes. Even when the clocks not running. They seem to be trying hard to be consistent with that. Timing was perfect this time.
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