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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I disagree that noone has improved here. Take a look at Fakhir Brown. He's definitely improved the last couple of years. LeCharles Bentley, Delhomme when he was here, Darren Howard (remember, he was good before Pease arrived), and I don't ...

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Old 06-10-2005, 03:30 PM   #11
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I disagree that noone has improved here. Take a look at Fakhir Brown. He's definitely improved the last couple of years. LeCharles Bentley, Delhomme when he was here, Darren Howard (remember, he was good before Pease arrived), and I don't think anyone would argue that Joe Horn hasn't exceeded here what he did prior to arriving. I'm not the biggest Haz fan, but players on this level shouldn't have to be coached to wrap up on tackles, there's not much technique to looking the ball into your hands, so I'm going to have to give the staff the benefit of the doubt on this one. Now if your talking about being good gameday tacticians, now we can slam the crap out of the coaches all day.......

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Old 06-10-2005, 03:42 PM   #12
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I disagree that noone has improved here. Take a look at Fakhir Brown.
I'm not sure, but did anyone say noone has improved here? I thought for sure I at least said some players have worked hard and gotten better. And Fakhir would prob be at best a nickel in most places. Seriously. Just cause he is the second best we have doesn't really say much. He's not gonna be in any pro bowls any time soon. And they are talking about replacing him with Craft.
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:20 PM   #13
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I do not really care for Tebcucky Jones but I do not understand why Haslett is now taking shots at him and indirectly at the Dolphins. I don't know who pulled the trigger on the trade for Tebucky but it happened on Haslett's watch.
I think releasing him in the offseason pretty much speaks volumes about how the Saints felt about him. There is no need for Haslett to further justify the move with his comments. Tebucky's weaknesses were hidden in a great New England defense who gave him limited assignments which allowed him to roam free. As we all know, the Saints defense is in stark contrast to the Patriots. The past few years if you were a saftey for the Saints you stay very busy. The lack of a supporting cast exposed Tebucky for the below-average player that he is. Prehaps, Haslett should have noticed that Tebucky was a product of the New England system when they made the trade. You cannot be shocked when you bring in sub-par players and they preform sub-par. For a coach who has pretty much flown under the radar the past few years, Haslett sure has no problem being vocal this off-season on subjects that are in the past(Steelers Steroid Use). He needs to quit answering questions no one asked him and focus on the task at hand.
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:28 PM   #14
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What else would TJ say? Haslet ripped him. He's not just going to say how nice the guy is after that. So he blasts him back. You just have to question his motive for saying it, which puts a questionable aspect on its genuiness.

The same goes for Turley and a few others. Why listen to the ones with the biggest motives for slamming the org?
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:31 PM   #15
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I'm not questioning what TJ said, I'm questioning why Haslett said what he did.
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:30 AM   #16
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The same goes for Turley and a few others. Why listen to the ones with the biggest motives for slamming the org?
Because if you're trashing the coach(s) regularly these guys fall right in line with your tactics. Nevermind the circumstances. Filter out what fits and use it. Been going on here for years!

I subscribe to the "you're in the NFL and should have a clue about catching the ball, making tackles, keeping your personal life in order, and keeping your temper in check" theory, but some appear to think these things are the job(s) of the head coach.
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I kinda agree with Dmac.....Tasucky might have been a pile a steamin dog%#$@....but he was obtained on haz's watch so you're realy makin yourself look bad....(see Sully).....besides I was taught not to air my dirty laundry in public..........just a thought...
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:27 AM   #18
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It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY........
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:31 PM   #19
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i'm just wondering what coaching poor old tebucky needs. it is amazing how the guys that leave complain. wouldn't you expect that. i mean think of the last place you were fired from or let go from that you had a good word of. i mean honestly the guy is in the nfl and he needs coaching. i could understand coaching for the scheme but christ tebucky what else do you need. sounds like tebucky still needs a daddy figure
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:52 PM   #20
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chaching what about letting go of ricky or turley or joe johnson. what about the drafting of deuce or bentley. how about bringing in horn. what about grant. well maybe you could also include howard from 2000. 2003 picked up holland and zach hilton undrafted. what about karney or smith or watson and bockwoldt. man we have loss some and we have won some. i think there has been mistakes haslett has made. no doubt. but we have brought in some good players under his watch also. lets all just hope for this season. i know it is tough to do with what has happened. but dang maybe we can do something. i'll probabaly be eating my words 5 weeks into the season but im getting ready for this season. i am just starting to think this is the year. so im sure i am wrong. christ i know i am. i can't help it though
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