Ref from Rams-Saints controversy gets confronted by fans while officiating college basketball game

jeanpierre · 01-27-2019, 10:35 AM

smh, white folks with too much time, money on their hands...

jeanpierre · 01-27-2019, 10:49 AM

Now this is a funny from Vegas Law Enforcement...

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vpheughan · 01-27-2019, 11:08 AM

SMH

burningmetal · 01-27-2019, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/MattMoon00/statu...83931031920642

See, I don't have a problem with this...

https://twitter.com/johnbialas/statu...72782429372418

It's this kinda of stuff that makes us look bad, especially while the non-essential government was shut-down (though the optics from #fakenews media put proper perspective vs Cassidy, not Richmond)...

Nonetheless, both ARE unaccountable morons...

https://twitter.com/CedricRichmond/s...32878881972224

https://twitter.com/AZSports/status/1089193993936678912

Even this is fair...

https://twitter.com/blucas99/status/1087161600987910144

With all due respect, jeanpierre, I think it's a little dramatic to use the partial government shutdown, as if it's some kind of horrific crisis, to say that they can't discuss this matter. Both sides knew where they stood in the negotiations. I don't think it hurts anybody to bring up the fact that a gazillion dollar business is showing a lack of impartiality with it's officiating.

If the NFL were to be found of fixing games, that becomes an ENORMOUS can of worms. You're talking about essentially scamming fans, and also it would raise a ton of questions about what sort of under the table deals the league might have in regards to gambling. And betters, themselves, would have grounds to sue the NFL for their losses. And that is just the sort of thing that would end the NFL, or at least those currently in charge of it.

I think that's relevant.

Rugby Saint II · 01-27-2019, 12:25 PM

I am a referee for rugby and that is incredibly tough.....how the hell do you referee at a high level with two different sports? We need full time refs who train year round for one purpose. To get it right!

jeanpierre · 01-27-2019, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

With all due respect, jeanpierre, I think it's a little dramatic to use the partial government shutdown, as if it's some kind of horrific crisis, to say that they can't discuss this matter.

Congressfolks should be focused on more serious matters.

No matter how you come down on the Gov't Shutdown (Personally, I'm for far less gov't), those a'holes should be engaged on that issue and others and not trying to preach to the crowd about foosball...

neugey · 01-27-2019, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I am a referee for rugby and that is incredibly tough.....how the hell do you referee at a high level with two different sports? We need full time refs who train year round for one purpose. To get it right!

In addition, basketball is far more difficult to officiate and there is much more room for bias, corruption and external influences. Vinovich doing basketball is like putting gasoline on the fire.

jeanpierre · 01-27-2019, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

In addition, basketball is far more difficult to officiate and there is much more room for bias, corruption and external influences. Vinovich doing basketball is like putting gasoline on the fire.

This follows him, his crew, NFL administrators into everything they do - ...the Albatross About my neck was hung (Coleridge)...

burningmetal · 01-27-2019, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Congressfolks should be focused on more serious matters.

No matter how you come down on the Gov't Shutdown (Personally, I'm for far less gov't), those a'holes should be engaged on that issue and others and not trying to preach to the crowd about foosball...

I'm for far less government, as well, which is why I'm not particularly concerned when any part of it shuts down. But this isn't just a couple of guys talking about how they're bummed that their team lost. I listed the potential scams that could be going on, and the huge ramifications it would have.

If Congress could grill baseball players about steroids, I think they can do this. Football is a game. The NFL is a mob. I'm all for investigating them. As far as everything else that Congress could be doing, it's going to be a stalemate for the next two years, with Democrats controlling the House. They're going to push their ludicrous agendas, and the Senate is going to block them. I'm sure they spend plenty of time talking about other things, all the same.

st thomas · 01-28-2019, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I know what you're getting at, and I agree with the sentiment. I wouldn't encourage harassment, even for someone who might deserve it (unless we're talking about a murder or rapist, or some such criminal), because there is a way to be forceful in making a point, without acting like a maniac.

But much of what I see (not all of it) has not been what I would call maniacal behavior. If someone wants to hold up a sign telling the ref not to blow it for their team, I don't think it's over the top. Depending on the exact language.

And who says this was even a Saints fan? It was in Utah. Sure, there are Saints fans scattered all over the place, but this has been a controversy that most fans of OTHER teams have sided with the Saints on. So, it isn't just people here who are reacting to the no-calls. There's a way to be respectful and still take a stand against corruption. Make no mistake, what happened last Sunday was corruption. We've all seen missed calls. That wasn't a missed call. It was deliberate. We can spend all day theorizing the motives behind it, but it is clear that this was deliberate, imo.

Take President Trump as a perfect example: He doesn't play the "let's all be friends" game. He knew that people needed to be called out and exposed for who and what they are. And it's working for him. Everyone could stand to learn something from that.

Not only trump but the me too movement and what it stands for enough is enough it’s in the open the world saw it it was deliberate and calculated , I’m sorry if some of u are offended but there are fans than been seeing this crap done against the saints for years the red headed stepchild will not be pushed no longer

01-27-2019, 10:35 AM	#11
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01-27-2019, 10:49 AM	#12
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Ref from Rams-Saints controversy gets confronted by fans while officiating college basketball game Now this is a funny from Vegas Law Enforcement... Twitter neugey, Rugby Saint II, Srgt. Hulka and 1 others like this.

01-27-2019, 11:08 AM	#13
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01-27-2019, 11:21 AM	#14
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ref from Rams-Saints controversy gets confronted by fans while officiating college basketball game Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/MattMoon00/statu...83931031920642 See, I don't have a problem with this... https://twitter.com/johnbialas/statu...72782429372418 It's this kinda of stuff that makes us look bad, especially while the non-essential government was shut-down (though the optics from #fakenews media put proper perspective vs Cassidy, not Richmond)... Nonetheless, both ARE unaccountable morons... https://twitter.com/CedricRichmond/s...32878881972224 https://twitter.com/AZSports/status/1089193993936678912 Even this is fair... https://twitter.com/blucas99/status/1087161600987910144 With all due respect, jeanpierre, I think it's a little dramatic to use the partial government shutdown, as if it's some kind of horrific crisis, to say that they can't discuss this matter. Both sides knew where they stood in the negotiations. I don't think it hurts anybody to bring up the fact that a gazillion dollar business is showing a lack of impartiality with it's officiating. If the NFL were to be found of fixing games, that becomes an ENORMOUS can of worms. You're talking about essentially scamming fans, and also it would raise a ton of questions about what sort of under the table deals the league might have in regards to gambling. And betters, themselves, would have grounds to sue the NFL for their losses. And that is just the sort of thing that would end the NFL, or at least those currently in charge of it. I think that's relevant.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

01-27-2019, 12:25 PM	#15
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Ref from Rams-Saints controversy gets confronted by fans while officiating college basketball game Originally Posted by burningmetal With all due respect, jeanpierre, I think it's a little dramatic to use the partial government shutdown, as if it's some kind of horrific crisis, to say that they can't discuss this matter. Congressfolks should be focused on more serious matters. No matter how you come down on the Gov't Shutdown (Personally, I'm for far less gov't), those a'holes should be engaged on that issue and others and not trying to preach to the crowd about foosball...

01-27-2019, 01:23 PM	#17
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,591 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Ref from Rams-Saints controversy gets confronted by fans while officiating college basketball game Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I am a referee for rugby and that is incredibly tough.....how the hell do you referee at a high level with two different sports? We need full time refs who train year round for one purpose. To get it right! In addition, basketball is far more difficult to officiate and there is much more room for bias, corruption and external influences. Vinovich doing basketball is like putting gasoline on the fire. jeanpierre likes this.

01-27-2019, 06:17 PM	#18
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Ref from Rams-Saints controversy gets confronted by fans while officiating college basketball game Originally Posted by neugey In addition, basketball is far more difficult to officiate and there is much more room for bias, corruption and external influences. Vinovich doing basketball is like putting gasoline on the fire. This follows him, his crew, NFL administrators into everything they do - ...the Albatross About my neck was hung (Coleridge)...

01-27-2019, 07:43 PM	#19
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ref from Rams-Saints controversy gets confronted by fans while officiating college basketball game Originally Posted by jeanpierre Congressfolks should be focused on more serious matters. No matter how you come down on the Gov't Shutdown (Personally, I'm for far less gov't), those a'holes should be engaged on that issue and others and not trying to preach to the crowd about foosball... I'm for far less government, as well, which is why I'm not particularly concerned when any part of it shuts down. But this isn't just a couple of guys talking about how they're bummed that their team lost. I listed the potential scams that could be going on, and the huge ramifications it would have. If Congress could grill baseball players about steroids, I think they can do this. Football is a game. The NFL is a mob. I'm all for investigating them. As far as everything else that Congress could be doing, it's going to be a stalemate for the next two years, with Democrats controlling the House. They're going to push their ludicrous agendas, and the Senate is going to block them. I'm sure they spend plenty of time talking about other things, all the same.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

01-28-2019, 09:01 AM	#20
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Ref from Rams-Saints controversy gets confronted by fans while officiating college basketball game Originally Posted by burningmetal I know what you're getting at, and I agree with the sentiment. I wouldn't encourage harassment, even for someone who might deserve it (unless we're talking about a murder or rapist, or some such criminal), because there is a way to be forceful in making a point, without acting like a maniac. But much of what I see (not all of it) has not been what I would call maniacal behavior. If someone wants to hold up a sign telling the ref not to blow it for their team, I don't think it's over the top. Depending on the exact language. And who says this was even a Saints fan? It was in Utah. Sure, there are Saints fans scattered all over the place, but this has been a controversy that most fans of OTHER teams have sided with the Saints on. So, it isn't just people here who are reacting to the no-calls. There's a way to be respectful and still take a stand against corruption. Make no mistake, what happened last Sunday was corruption. We've all seen missed calls. That wasn't a missed call. It was deliberate. We can spend all day theorizing the motives behind it, but it is clear that this was deliberate, imo. Take President Trump as a perfect example: He doesn't play the "let's all be friends" game. He knew that people needed to be called out and exposed for who and what they are. And it's working for him. Everyone could stand to learn something from that. Not only trump but the me too movement and what it stands for enough is enough it’s in the open the world saw it it was deliberate and calculated , I’m sorry if some of u are offended but there are fans than been seeing this crap done against the saints for years the red headed stepchild will not be pushed no longer

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