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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I'm over it too. Look, as bummed out as we all were about losing in the playoffs, something was just not right with this team for the past month and a half. I don't know what it was, but something ...

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Old 02-06-2019, 10:49 PM   #31
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I'm over it too.

Look, as bummed out as we all were about losing in the playoffs, something was just not right with this team for the past month and a half.

I don't know what it was, but something broke in week 10 in that Dallas game and whatever fell apart, it was never fixed.

The offense was never the same again after week 10. Dallas showed a formula for taking away our main two weapons on offense (Kamara and MT) and thus in turn, Brees was forced to try and pick teams apart with a cast of no-names that were barely threatening at all to opposing defenses. This wasn't a stacked offense like 2009, 2011 or even the 2016 team. Outside of Kamara and Thomas, we had no other weapons to rely on. Kamara and MT were the main factors of this offense. MT was the highest rated WR this year in AV on Pro-Football-Reference.

We scored 10, 28, 12 and 31 in our final games. I don't add week 17 cause Brees rested and that wasn't much more than an exhibition game. Brees' TD/INT ratio was 7-5 in that final stretch. The offense went from averaging 31 points a game down to 19.

Remember that Tampa Bay game? We were getting our butts kicked until the defense stepped up and forced a blocked punt. That was the turning point of that game. The defense completely bailed us out against Carolina too and later on against Pittsburgh.

The defense really stepped up in the second half of the season and when our offense collapsed, we were relying on the defense to win games and for a while, they were doing it! They bailed us out against Tampa, Carolina and Pittsburgh.

I had a very bad feeling before the Rams game just based off how bad the offense looked against the Eagles. We would've got blown out that night if not for the defense stepping up and completely shutting down Foles and the RPO which I was worried would give us issues. The Eagles had less than 90 yards for 3 quarters and yet our offense just barely managed to put just enough points on the board (20) and yet, Philly still had a shot to win that game in the end.

The offense didn't exactly play well against the Rams and we did blow a 13 point lead, despite eventually being robbed in the end.

The Rams looked like they had absolutely ZERO business being in the SB the other night and they didn't even have fans who wanted to show up. Did you hear the crowd in that game? It sounded like the Patriots were playing at Foxboro. Brady after the game even thanked the fans, saying the team felt like they were at home.

Think of all the mediocre/flukey teams that have reached the SB in the past and were blown out. Teams like the 1986 Patriots, 1989 Broncos and 1994 Chargers, these teams at least scored more than 3 points in the big game going up against juggernaut teams that destroyed them. That Patriots team was so mediocre on offense and they still got to 10 points against one of the GOAT defenses.

This wasn't the 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens, but Jared Goff played so badly, that the Patriots looked like that! Goff has been exposed as a fraud, seriously. If he don't have McVay telling him what to audible and where to throw the ball, he's completely lost. He looked like a deer starring at headlights that whole game.

Even when it was tied 3-3, it never felt close. The Patriots had 2 dropped INTs on tipped balls, one of them would've put them in the red zone and they had a fumble that went out of bounds. If they don't miss their first FG attempt, they could've went for a second one before half time and been up 9-0. This game would've been a blow out if they get those turnovers and/or if a youthful Brady had showed up that game (seriously, Brady played bad like Peyton Manning in his last SB), the Pats would've rained touchdowns on them.

I am not sure we would've beat the Patriots in the SB, depending on match ups and all that, but I do know for a fact that Brees definitely would've scored more than 3 freaking points. It would've been a better SB than this.

The pain still hurts, but I am happy the Rams were exposed as FRAUDS. Jared Goff would be Ryan Tannehill if he didn't have his coach telling him what to audible and where to throw the ball pre-snap. Something happened with Goff half way in the season where teams figured this out and began to expose him. The Bears showed how it was done and the Patriots did it too.

The Rams aren't winning a SB with Goff and I don't think McVay is the "future of the NFL" either. I'd hate to be a fan of any of the teams who just hired a young coach who talked to him. Would not be shocked if they are an 8-8 or 9-7 at best team next year. Seattle will be improved next year and will most likely give them a run for the NFC West.

If we can get some more receivers and keep improving on defense, we have a shot.
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:34 AM   #32
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Dude u need to send this to every owner in the entire league

EVERY OWNER IN THE LEAGUE TELLS ROGER WHAT TO DO, WHEN TO DO IT. THEY PLAY GOOD COP - BAD COP. ALL THE BAD PUBLICITY GOES TO ROGER AND THE LEAGUE OFFICE WHILE THE OWNERS SIT BACK AND PLAY THE "VICTIM" CARD. ALL THE WHILE RAKING IN BILLIONS. THIS NFL DECK IS STACKED MANY DIFFERENT WAYS IN THE OWNERS FAVOR.

IF ROGER IS SO "BAD" FOR THE LEAGUE WHY HASN'T BEEN FIRED BY THE OWNERS WHO CONTROL HIM?
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:00 AM   #33
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Cha-Ching - I agree with you completely but I do believe that in addition to Goff going full dear in the headlights, the Wunderkind McVay ain't near as smart as he and the media make him out to be. Even though all of the high powered offenses had statistical fall-offs later in the season. In the Saint's case is was largely due to injuries on the O-line and receiver positions. After their bye week the Rams O went mostly dormant but for games against Little Sisters of the Poor (SF and AZ).

As I mentioned in another post, the 2019 season will be a major test. Their schedule is loaded with teams that can actually play defense. Let's see what kind of numbers they put up then.

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Old 02-07-2019, 10:04 AM   #34
 
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Cha-Ching - I agree with you completely but I do believe that in addition to Goff going full dear in the headlights, the Wunderkind McVay ain't near as smart as he and the media make him out to be. Even though all of the high powered offenses had statistical fall-offs later in the season. In the Saint's case is was largely due to injuries on the O-line and receiver positions. After their bye week the Rams O went mostly dormant but for games against Little Sisters of the Poor (SF and AZ).

As I mentioned in another post, the 2019 season will be a major test. Their schedule is loaded with teams that can actually play defense. Let's see what kind of numbers they put up then.
... and the refs.
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Old 02-07-2019, 03:32 PM   #35
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Cha-Ching - I agree with you completely but I do believe that in addition to Goff going full dear in the headlights, the Wunderkind McVay ain't near as smart as he and the media make him out to be. Even though all of the high powered offenses had statistical fall-offs later in the season. In the Saint's case is was largely due to injuries on the O-line and receiver positions. After their bye week the Rams O went mostly dormant but for games against Little Sisters of the Poor (SF and AZ).

As I mentioned in another post, the 2019 season will be a major test. Their schedule is loaded with teams that can actually play defense. Let's see what kind of numbers they put up then.

I agree about Goff and McVay. I would be frightened if I were a fan of any of the teams who recently hired a young assistant from McVay (Green Bay, whom is in for a rude awakening with their young coach and the big baby they have at QB). I do not believe he's the future of the NFL. We heard this same nonsense a few years ago about Kyle Shanahan and all he has amounted to is 28-3 jokes since losing the Super Bowl.

I don't think the Rams will get another gifted chance like this at winning a SB. They've had zero o-line injuries in 2 years and then in the big game, Wade Phillips had a brilliant scheme that held the Pats to 13 points and none of that mattered cause Jared Goff played so bad, the Pats defense looked like the 1985 Bears out there.

True about the Rams after the bye week. Goff went from looking like Kurt Warner for half of the season to looking like Ryan Tannehill. He would be Ryan Tannehill 2.0 if not for McVay for telling him what to audible and where to throw the ball pre-snap. He does not know how to read defenses at all and he panics under pressure. I honestly thought Goff was going to be a huge draft bust in his rookie season cause he was one of the worst QBs I had seen as a rookie since the 90s. Without McVay, he'd definitely be a bust and the Pats defense reminded us that in the SB with how thoroughly they exposed him.

2019 will definitely be a test. Honestly, the more I think about it with our Saints, I believe what really doomed us was not having another play maker on offense besides Kamara and MT. No one fears Tommy Lee Lewis, Kirkwood, Dan Arnold or Austin Carr. Losing Ted Ginn hurt too. This receiving corps was probably the worst we've had in the Payton era.

I wish we had a #2 guy like the Pats do with Edleman. That would've really helped us out. In the past, we had decent TEs like Shockey and Graham who were reliable when needing a first down to extend a drive.

If we can get some better receivers or at the bare minimum, just a #2 guy to help out MT, I think we have good chances next year.
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Old 02-09-2019, 01:41 PM   #36
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I was just at a Wal Mart up here in Wisconsin wearing my Saints jacket... Some random guy walks by, taps my shoulder and gives me a “You guys got robbed.” Made me feel good.
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Old 02-09-2019, 07:48 PM   #37
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What can I do? I have emailed every editor for every news paper I can think of. I have emailed every sports talk show I can think of. That's the only power I have. I've stopped watching Colin Cowherd, and I have sent him an email telling him why. Same for a few lesser shows - same for Good Morning Football, Skip and Shannon, etc. I suspect as the narrative shifts soon from how great Brady is for winning another one I'll have more opportunities for more emails. I will send them.

I had planned to buy Sunday Ticket for next season. Instead I'll continue to stream the games online via nefarious sources. My point is that I am not satisfied, nor will I be until a change is made - until someone or multiple someones are held to account.

I think the fans at the dome should protest at EVERY game next season. I'm not sure how, but it should be done. People must not let this die and say, ok, the Rams lost. We're vindicated. That is EXACTLY what Roger is betting will happen. We need to make sure it doesn't.

Skip was against the no-call. I don't recall him picking us to lose.
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Old 02-10-2019, 01:33 AM   #38
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The only way I would ever even think of get over it is to see Roger beat breathless or at least fired and those terrible officials fired and then im still not sure I would be over it. I cant believe I hate a person as deeply as I do without ever even meeting them.
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:12 PM   #39
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Iím over it to but the hate still remains of how it all can happen to any team any where any how can we let the refs control the OUTCOME of a game any game if they donít fix it just go back to what it was before replay take away everything replay f it donít care anymore
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:40 AM   #40
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Skip was against the no-call. I don't recall him picking us to lose.
True, Skip defended the Saints.

Colin Cowherd is the one who didn't. He pointed out the missed face mask call on Goff that would've put the Rams at first and goal and we would've likely been down 24-20 after that. He also focused on how we got the ball in OT and turned it over.

The only thing Colin had right was saying that we peaked in November and when he showed Brees' stats from weeks 1-9 in comparison to the final 6 games. His TD/INT ratio was 31-2 in the first 9 weeks. It went from that down to a horrible 7-5 in the last 6 games. Brees was averaging less than 200 yards passing to end the year. Our offense went from averaging 31 points down to 19. Something was definitely wrong with the offense and they never got back on track after that loss to Dallas. This is a legit argument and should be noted. It's the main reason I do not think we would've beat the Patriots in the SB had we got there. As badly as the offense struggled, I know in my gut that Bill B would've knew just what to do to make the SB hell for us.

Colin could've made a much better argument if he wasn't trying to hype up the Rams. He talked about the Saints offense being a problem before the game and that was why he was so high on picking the Rams. I think his pick being right was the main reason he was so smug about them winning.
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