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Greedy Williams

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by voodooido I guess it’s a youth movement that you last three speak of. It’s a self entitlement generation. I’m more inclined to support the devin white players than the greedy players. I want heart. I want a ...

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Old 04-22-2019, 04:17 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by voodooido View Post
I guess it’s a youth movement that you last three speak of. It’s a self entitlement generation. I’m more inclined to support the devin white players than the greedy players. I want heart. I want a player who refuses to leave the field. I want the kid who plays like he is still in peewee. For me it’s all about the heart, not the bank. A player that follows the bank will do in the pros what greedy did in college. If it’s a contract year you think he’s going to play hurt? If he refused to play in a “meaningless” college game for a chance to make money don’t you think he will sit pro games for even more? When does the selfishness end?
Selfishness is the only logical thing when you reach the NFL level. I had the good fortune of playing with two former NFL players and a couple of NFL PS guys and they all said the exact thing. You need to put yourself first, look out for yourself, because nobody else will. As soon as there is someone that is as good as you but younger, you are out. Injury? You are out. New coaching staff? You might be out.

The only exception are the true superstars, the Drew Breeses and Von Millers in the league but they are very few and far in between.

W.T. Sherman is my favorite General. After all he did order Atlanta to be burned to the ground.
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Old 04-22-2019, 09:48 AM   #22
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How many players better than greedy played in “meaningless “ games to support their team and the fans/college that supported them? Your point is invalid. It’s about the heart and dedication not about the money. When you get old and look back at your life are you enjoying memories or saying “boy I sure did make a lot of money”?
Will Grier (QB) ... Saints have shown a TON in interest @ Pro Day, personal visit, workout etc. A QB of all positions, skipped out on his Bowl game to prepare for the draft. Should we lump this kid into the "lack heart & dedication aspect" as well?

Circle back 2017 draft ... Chubb, Denzell Ward, Jaire Alexander, Derwin James, Josh Rosens etc all "sat out" of their teams bowl game. Don't think any NFL team is questioning their "desire" at the elite level. Bowl games can still matter (Jake Butt & Jaylon Smith tore ACL's in bowl games) for some and not for others.

As long as there’s millions of dollars worth of guaranteed money for top NFL prospects and a bloated bowl schedule, players skipping bowl games isn’t fading.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:11 AM   #23
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Will Grier (QB) ... Saints have shown a TON in interest @ Pro Day, personal visit, workout etc. A QB of all positions, skipped out on his Bowl game to prepare for the draft. Should we lump this kid into the "lack heart & dedication aspect" as well?

Circle back 2017 draft ... Chubb, Denzell Ward, Jaire Alexander, Derwin James, Josh Rosens etc all "sat out" of their teams bowl game. Don't think any NFL team is questioning their "desire" at the elite level. Bowl games can still matter (Jake Butt & Jaylon Smith tore ACL's in bowl games) for some and not for others.

As long as there’s millions of dollars worth of guaranteed money for top NFL prospects and a bloated bowl schedule, players skipping bowl games isn’t fading.
Yes we should. I don’t care who you are if you show a lack of dedication to the ones who helped you achieve your dreams then I would take you off the board completely. Let’s not forget greedy was a 3* coming out of HS and it was LSU who took a chance on him. Maybe it’s the old man in me but I want to see heart not the love for money
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:37 AM   #24
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Yes we should. I don’t care who you are if you show a lack of dedication to the ones who helped you achieve your dreams then I would take you off the board completely.
The NFL is a business and most organizations & team scouts simply don't think (see Fournette & McCaffery) like that when ultimately drafting a player.
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:45 PM   #25
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The NFL is a business and most organizations & team scouts simply don't think (see Fournette & McCaffery) like that when ultimately drafting a player.
Again, that’s why I said I’m an old man. This crap didn’t happen in the 70’s-90’s. It’s going to end up like basketball where everyone is money hungry but files bankrupt shortly after retiring.
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Originally Posted by voodooido View Post
Yes we should. I don’t care who you are if you show a lack of dedication to the ones who helped you achieve your dreams then I would take you off the board completely. Let’s not forget greedy was a 3* coming out of HS and it was LSU who took a chance on him. Maybe it’s the old man in me but I want to see heart not the love for money
If he had shut it down mid-season I'd be more inclined to agree, but he didn't do that. He decided not to play in a meaningless game so as to protect his career and his earning potential. Much like many big time players play very little if at all in the pre season, and certainly not enough to matter. Those games don't matter much either. It's not 100% apples to apples, but that's my point.

If somebody told me, hey, get out there and support your teammates in this meaningless game OR have a cool million I'm going to be pulling for my guys from the first row.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:23 PM   #27
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If he had shut it down mid-season I'd be more inclined to agree, but he didn't do that. He decided not to play in a meaningless game so as to protect his career and his earning potential. Much like many big time players play very little if at all in the pre season, and certainly not enough to matter. Those games don't matter much either. It's not 100% apples to apples, but that's my point.

If somebody told me, hey, get out there and support your teammates in this meaningless game OR have a cool million I'm going to be pulling for my guys from the first row.


Devin white played and will get drafted before greedy.
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Devin white played and will get drafted before greedy.
That's Devin White's decision. I don't hold it against him.
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That's Devin White's decision. I don't hold it against him.
Hard to “hold it against him” when he did the right thing.
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Take a moment to read this if you haven't already done so on Mr. Williams.

https://expo.nola.com/sports/erry-20...s-skippin.html
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