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duece4pres 07-03-2005 06:48 AM

Backup QB
 
:D I know it is still early, but, who do think will start if Brooks goes down! Will it be McPherson or Bouwman?

papz 07-03-2005 10:36 AM

RE: Backup QB
 
If we are in contention for a playoff spot... Bouman.

If we are sucking and have no chance... McPherson.

RockyMountainSaint 07-03-2005 10:49 PM

I remember Bouman coming in a few years ago for Culpepper when Donte' was injured. He lit up two games. The 4-letter network was on his nuts.
I also have seen the pre-season games he has played for us. I haven't been impressed by his performance in those games.
I have seen him perform well and that is what I am holding on to when thinking about Brooks going down. Hope.
Whatever knocks on Brooks anyone wants to bring up; he has been healthy. That could be a by-product of his turning into a total sissy and refusing to run the football... but I digress.
We have no idea what our backup situation looks like. If only Jake had gotten a fair shot.
Cest La Vie.

spkb25 07-03-2005 11:24 PM

i remember bouwman did real well for minn. one year. i don't know, i can't see him giving us that. he has seemed really bad since then. mcpherson might be better. i am not sure either way but would probably have to give bouwman the nodd for at least one game. if he doesn't do shiit then start mcpherson.

spkb25 07-03-2005 11:33 PM

bouman also

RockyMountainSaint 07-04-2005 05:48 AM

I believe that AB is our best option at QB right now.

Excuse me please (sound of me slugging myself in the nuts).

I don't advocate starting a 21 year old QB at this time and Bouman is not the answer either imho. But think of another Saints player that anyone has watched and pulled as much hair out over (i'm nearly bald now) as Aaron Brooks. I wanted to accept him but have been burned too often.

It's like wanting out of a marriage after you found out that it isn't what you really thought you were getting.

Well he is ours.... for better or worse.

bobcat4u2 07-04-2005 06:47 AM

this is my first comment on the qb situation.i still beleive brooks could become a top qb. i feel like the change of co-ordinators (whom i could anticipate correctly 80% of the time could change him.also, i've seen men considered washed up more than him come to life later in career.i am not brooks lover or hater,but please give him a legimate supported last chance for the sake of our team.remember,even peyton makes errors and don't blame brooks for not giving jake the chance he deserved here.(that was poor coaching)

papz 07-04-2005 08:51 AM

"Backup"

Euphoria 07-04-2005 10:24 AM

I like bouman in our new offense... something he is more suited for.

JKool 07-04-2005 10:57 AM

That's a good point Euph.

Bouman is certainly better qualified to hand-off to Duece than he is to throw... just kidding.

Seriously though, I agree that with a more run-centered, power attack, all our QBs will benefit. However, it isn't like the QB was asked to do a lot in our previous offensive scheme. It isn't clear to me what the changes to the playbook are just yet (other than run more) - though that is the kind of thing that will impact who is better suited to play backup.

CheramieIII 07-04-2005 11:58 AM

We better all hope Bouman can play better in our new basic offense because Phersome won't get a chance this year is something happens to AB.

no_cloning 07-04-2005 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKool
Seriously though, I agree that with a more run-centered, power attack, all our QBs will benefit.

Historically I'd say that's true, but does it hold for Brooks?
Brooks is a stats player, witnessed by his usual comments after a loss. He would never say this literally, but I often read something like "I played okay, just look at my stats, 300+ yards. The rest of the team lost the game" between the lines. What if he tries too hard to 'make something happen' with the fewer chances he gets? Forcing the ball into double coverage etc.

However, I don't see the type of QB I would like for this kind of offense on our roster. They are all playmakers with a strong arm who can come back from a 14-point deficit in the fourth, but there's noone who can control a game efficiently.
Still, I'm not in love with McPherson and would give Bouman the nod if Brooks goes down.

Euphoria 07-04-2005 04:23 PM

lets not put words in another players mouth. I have never heard AB say anything close to that. The change in the offense I dont' think its more of a power run type offense but more of a play action, checking off wr's.

LordOfEntropy 07-04-2005 06:33 PM

I certainly -hope- it is not just power run, not to the point where it becomes one dimensional....

I can't help but remember that the last time we tried that, a certain retired grass-smoking dreadlocked man in a wedding dress ran for a whopping 3-13 season. Then Miami tried the same technique using the same guy for more wonderful results.

We have a talented receving corps by most people's views. I feel that way, and I think we'd be fools not to use them. Play action, please.

JKool 07-04-2005 11:19 PM

Clone, that is an interesting point.

I never really considered AB to be all about the stats. I guess, I've never really seen him play for stats (at least in the handful of games I can actually see). It strikes me that he'd go "down town" more, if he were really all about his individual stats. He'd also be more cautious about the picks, I'd think. Either way, I will think on it, it is an interesting suggestion. If you are right, it would make Brooks less suited to run a power-run offense.

I do think, as does Euph, that more play action will help Brooks. If the guys are wide open on the first look, he won't have to check down - a good thing, I'd say.

WhoDat 07-05-2005 09:32 AM

Today - Bouman.
July '06 - If Brooks is still on the roster, McPherson

The question is November. By mid-to-late season, will McPherson have taken over the #2 spot? B/c basically, it's only a matter of how quickly he can progress, right?


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