How good is are the Patriots?

K Major · 10-31-2019, 11:43 AM

Patriots vs Ravens on Sunday night will be a good measuring stick.

Side note - on Nick Underhill's podcast he mentioned that they are just fundamentally sound defensively even though Greg Schiano left before the season, lost Matt Patricia, Flores etc however the are basically doing this without a defensive coordinator. 19 INT's so far. Nuts.

I understand Bill background is all defense but still ... that's impressive.

Coaching matters.

K Major · 10-31-2019, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

[B]Book still out, let's go inside the numbers (schedule thus far)...

Patriots Schedule so far -

Steelers 3 @ Patriots 33 (Steelers are 2-4, Ben Rapistberger was supposedly first injured in this game, now on IR)

Patriots 43 @ Dolphins 0 (Dolphins 0-6, the worst team in football)

Jets 14 @ Patriots 30 (Jets are 1-5, only win vs Cowboys @ home)

Patriots 16 @ Buffalo 10 (Bills are 5-1, Best Team Pats have faced, Bills QB Allen had an awful game that Bills should've won)

Patriots 33 @ Redskins 7 (Redskins are 1-7, Second Worst Team in League, only win vs Dolphins)

Patriots 35 @ NY G'nats 14 (Giants are 2-5, are rebuilding, didn't have their best player (S. Barkley), and game was close till the end of 3Q)

Patriots 33 @ Jets 0 (Jets are 1-5, QB Sam Darnold was "seeing ghosts")

Fair point but damn they are basically embarrassing the teams on their schedule.

rezburna · 10-31-2019, 02:53 PM

It’s coaching. Bill Belichick is a mastermind. Talent wise, they aren’t that loaded. However, nobody knows how to work with what they’ve got better than Bill Belichick. The guy is a genius with his personnel. He plays to the strength of what he has. How does this relate to the Saints though? I think we match up well.

jeanpierre · 10-31-2019, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the Patriots are a very good team.

Better than most & always looking for ways to improve.

Originally Posted by K Major

Fair point but damn they are basically embarrassing the teams on their schedule.

Originally Posted by rezburna

It’s coaching. Bill Belichick is a mastermind. Talent wise, they aren’t that loaded. However, nobody knows how to work with what they’ve got better than Bill Belichick. The guy is a genius with his personnel. He plays to the strength of what he has. How does this relate to the Saints though? I think we match up well.

Look, as disclosed, almost as much a Pats fan as Saints fan (homer), but just don't think Pats been tested like the Saints, and projecting out, the Saints have played superior opponents, higher level...

What's the phrase y'all were using, steel sharpens steel? Well, I think unless the Pats really start getting tested, pushed, partisanship aside, like the Saints in a matchup, even in Foxborough, well, no snow...

Our defensive line would get up on Brady early with their offensive line; and as genius as BB is in simplifying a game plan, he can't take away @CantGuardMike, stop Alvin, TEs and Taysom -Not with our offensive line...

And BB has a lot of respect for Payton's ability to get the isolated matchups; we've either gone toe-to-toe and lossed on some suspect officiating, or we've blown 'em out of the water in the Belichick-Payton era...

Pats defense is good, but they've not faced one legit starting QB with more the 16 GS, save Ryan Fitzpatrick who is either Fitzmagik or Fitzel, and that day he was the latter with three interceptions...

Just don't know what the Pats really have yet till they face better teams, franchises with good quarterbacks; maybe find out vs the Ravens or Eagles, their next two games, with a BYE in between, no less...

10-31-2019, 11:43 AM	#31
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: How good is are the Patriots? Patriots vs Ravens on Sunday night will be a good measuring stick. Side note - on Nick Underhill's podcast he mentioned that they are just fundamentally sound defensively even though Greg Schiano left before the season, lost Matt Patricia, Flores etc however the are basically doing this without a defensive coordinator. 19 INT's so far. Nuts. I understand Bill background is all defense but still ... that's impressive. Coaching matters.

10-31-2019, 11:57 AM	#32
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: How good is are the Patriots? Originally Posted by jeanpierre [B]Book still out, let's go inside the numbers (schedule thus far)... Patriots Schedule so far - Steelers 3 @ Patriots 33 (Steelers are 2-4, Ben Rapistberger was supposedly first injured in this game, now on IR) Patriots 43 @ Dolphins 0 (Dolphins 0-6, the worst team in football) Jets 14 @ Patriots 30 (Jets are 1-5, only win vs Cowboys @ home) Patriots 16 @ Buffalo 10 (Bills are 5-1, Best Team Pats have faced, Bills QB Allen had an awful game that Bills should've won) Patriots 33 @ Redskins 7 (Redskins are 1-7, Second Worst Team in League, only win vs Dolphins) Patriots 35 @ NY G'nats 14 (Giants are 2-5, are rebuilding, didn't have their best player (S. Barkley), and game was close till the end of 3Q) Patriots 33 @ Jets 0 (Jets are 1-5, QB Sam Darnold was "seeing ghosts") Fair point but damn they are basically embarrassing the teams on their schedule.

10-31-2019, 02:53 PM	#33
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,652	Re: How good is are the Patriots? It’s coaching. Bill Belichick is a mastermind. Talent wise, they aren’t that loaded. However, nobody knows how to work with what they’ve got better than Bill Belichick. The guy is a genius with his personnel. He plays to the strength of what he has. How does this relate to the Saints though? I think we match up well.

10-31-2019, 08:37 PM	#34
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: How good is are the Patriots? Originally Posted by K Major Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the Patriots are a very good team. Better than most & always looking for ways to improve. Originally Posted by K Major Fair point but damn they are basically embarrassing the teams on their schedule. Originally Posted by rezburna It’s coaching. Bill Belichick is a mastermind. Talent wise, they aren’t that loaded. However, nobody knows how to work with what they’ve got better than Bill Belichick. The guy is a genius with his personnel. He plays to the strength of what he has. How does this relate to the Saints though? I think we match up well. Look, as disclosed, almost as much a Pats fan as Saints fan (homer), but just don't think Pats been tested like the Saints, and projecting out, the Saints have played superior opponents, higher level... What's the phrase y'all were using, steel sharpens steel? Well, I think unless the Pats really start getting tested, pushed, partisanship aside, like the Saints in a matchup, even in Foxborough, well, no snow... Our defensive line would get up on Brady early with their offensive line; and as genius as BB is in simplifying a game plan, he can't take away @CantGuardMike, stop Alvin, TEs and Taysom -Not with our offensive line... And BB has a lot of respect for Payton's ability to get the isolated matchups; we've either gone toe-to-toe and lossed on some suspect officiating, or we've blown 'em out of the water in the Belichick-Payton era... Pats defense is good, but they've not faced one legit starting QB with more the 16 GS, save Ryan Fitzpatrick who is either Fitzmagik or Fitzel, and that day he was the latter with three interceptions... Just don't know what the Pats really have yet till they face better teams, franchises with good quarterbacks; maybe find out vs the Ravens or Eagles, their next two games, with a BYE in between, no less...
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