Top 5 Defense or Top 5 Offense ???
 

Top 5 defense or Top 5 offense ????

Which do you build around first in this Salary cap era ???

Now there are those who say :

But to lean your cap room towards the defensive side of the ball , let's see how that has worked out .

NFL .com list the following Top 5 defenses :

1. Pittsburgh
2. Buffalo
3. Washington
4. Denver
5. Tampa Bay

3 out of 5 of the teams having a top 5 defense failed to make the play offs last year . That is less then a 50 / 50 chance if you spend heavily on the defensive side of the ball .

Now let's look at the top 5 offenses

1. Kansas City
2. Indianapolis
3. Green Bay
4. Minnesota
5. Denver

5 out of 5 of the teams with a Top 5 offense made the play offs last year .

Tell ya what , let's broaden our list and see if that helps those defense minded people ??

Top 10 Defense

1. Pittsburgh
2. Buffalo
3. Washington
4. Denver
5. Tampa Bay
6. Baltimore
7. New York (A)
8. Miami
9. New England
10. Philadelphia

Well now that evens the chances out , 5 out of 10 teams with a top 10 defense made the play offs .

Top 5 Offense

1. Kansas City
2. Indianapolis
3. Green Bay
4. Minnesota
5. Denver
6. St. Louis
7. New England
8. Seattle
9. Philadelphia
10. San Diego

10 out of 10 teams made the play offs with a top 10 offense . That is 100%folks .

Guess those numbers speak for themselves ..... :wink:

RE: Top 5 Defense or Top 5 Offense ???
 

The point is , on which side of the ball would you build a top 5 team and then start building the other side of the ball .

Let's check 2003

Top 5 defense

1. Dallas
2. Buffalo
3. Baltimore
4. Denver
5. Tampa Bay

3 out of 5 would go to the play offs

Top 5 Offense

1. Minnesota
2. Kansas City
3. Indianapolis
4. Green Bay
5. San Francisco

3 out of 5 would go to the play offs

Play offs and the Super Bowl are as much about coaching and breaks as anything , if not the Denver Broncos should have won it all in 2004 .....

The point is to get to the play offs and let the games be played .

I would have to go with...Defense folks. Defense.

Simply because I'd like to see us win a Superbowl.

:)

I think you got at offense first get those guys use to one another and knowing each other and then working on Defense...

Let's check 2002

Top 5 Defense

1. Tampa Bay
2. Carolina
3. Miami
4. Philadelphia
5. Washington

2 out of 5 would go to the Play Offs

Top 5 Offense

1. Oakland
2. Minnesota
3. Denver
4. Kansas City
5. Pittsburgh

2 out of 5 would go to the play offs

Re: Top 5 Defense or Top 5 Offense ???
 

I think I read this somewhere before. :wink:

RE: Re: Top 5 Defense or Top 5 Offense ???
 

Should I put you on the mailing list ??

:P

By the way , that was eliminating the Saints in that so called worst defense ranking .

Baltimore, Tampa , NE, Rams. Last 4 champs and only two of them(STL and NE) had top 10 offenses. All of them had top 10 defenses. END of DISCUSSION!!!

Actually the Beginning of the Discussion .

I knew someone would use the Ravens and Bucs .

Which leads me into the next point , Both the Ravens and Bucs are 1 hit wonders to the big show . While teams like the Rams and Pats are repeaters , throw in a handfull of other teams like Denver and the 49ers . You might see that these were teams that knew how to put the points on the board and play a good defense . Pats defense actually slips last year and they still repeat , with the higher rated offense .

What you say is true...but still the 49ers, Denver and Pats
Defense was playing some damn good Defense when they
Offense was putting points on the board.

:wink:

97 Broncos 1st in offense - 6th in defense
98 Broncos 2nd in offense - 6th in defense
99 Rams 1st in offense - 4th in defense
01 Rams 1st in offense - 7th in defense
03 Pats 17th in offense - 7th in defense
04 Pats 7th in offense - 9th in defense

After eliminating the one hit wonders , only one team has less then a top 10 offense and only 1 team has a top 5 defense .

But not one of they Defense was last in nothing!!!

8)

I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Wha?"

defense-----------offense---------------right now, i want both. I am READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL! Saints football!

...should I?... nah...

97 Broncos 1st in offense - 6th in defense
98 Broncos 2nd in offense - 6th in defense
99 Rams 1st in offense - 4th in defense
01 Rams 1st in offense - 7th in defense
03 Pats 17th in offense - 7th in defense
04 Pats 7th in offense - 9th in defense

The 1997 Defense of Denver was very good in everything they did.
The 1998 Defense of Denver was very good in everything they did.
The 1999 Defense of the Rams was very good in everything they did.
The 2001 Defense of the Rams was very good in everything they did.
The 2003 Defense of New England was very good in everything they did.
The 2004Defense of New England was very good in everything they did.

Re: RE: Re: Top 5 Defense or Top 5 Offense ???
 

lol. No, what I meant was, I made a whole thread about this very same thing.
http://www.blackandgold.net/site/ind...wtopic&t=10050

Yea but why do u eliminate the one hit wonders? And i guess everyone who says Defense wins championships don't know what the hell they are talkin about!

Everyone who says Defense wins championships don't know what the hell they are talkin about!

YOU GOT TO BE JOKING.


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New England 41
Pittsburgh 27

Well then certainly the number one ranked defense would have had absolutely no problem in putting away the number seven offense .


Top 10 Defense

1. Pittsburgh
2. Buffalo
3. Washington
4. Denver
5. Tampa Bay
6. Baltimore
7. New York (A)
8. Miami
9. New England
10. Philadelphia

Top 5 Offense

1. Kansas City
2. Indianapolis
3. Green Bay
4. Minnesota
5. Denver
6. St. Louis
7. New England
8. Seattle
9. Philadelphia
10. San Diego

If a team could survive on defense alone , Dungy would have stayed in Tampa Bay .

Just curious , but someone pointed out earlier that only one team has gone to the Super Bowl with a last placed defense .

How many have gone with a last placed offense ???