Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers

K Major · 11-25-2019, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

4. Christiam McCaffery is giving me a headache and he will probably continue to do so for many years to come. He is a great, dynamic player.

How many times did I see McCaffery release out of the backfield and there is no one within 15 yards ... If have a spy on anybody on this team McCaffery is the one. Later in the game they did a better job but after way toooo many burns jobs.

Agreed however Christian did not get a 100 yards rushing on the Saints D. Only 2.9 ypc ...

He simply abused us in the passing game though.

jeanpierre · 11-25-2019, 08:20 AM

Rookie has played well, even picking up the slack from RG Warford lately...

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SmashMouth · 11-25-2019, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

We don't have the luxury of benching him.

But many were content that this team does not need a #2, 3 or hell #4 WR.

There is Michael Thomas & a bunch of bodies running around at WR. Cook has shown up though at the TE position.

Meanwhile Grayson is still out there. He's probably hungrier too.

skymike · 11-25-2019, 09:25 AM

7. Josh Hill is a great blocker in the running game. He is the type of player that flies under the radar but is really important on a roster.
-- YES. and we have a number of guys like him, average fans dont know, who make a huge difference.

9. I'm so glad our kicker is Wil Lutz and not Joey Slye.
-- Best K we've had since Morten.

jeanpierre · 11-25-2019, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Meanwhile Grayson is still out there. He's probably hungrier too.

A good football business argument could be made to have cut Ginn, kept Cyril Grayson...

Even if he ran the correct routes and still dropped the ball he'd be an improvement over what Ginn is giving in terms of effort, results...

And Grayson really is faster than everyone else and can back it up and would likely show up for a challenge unlike Ginn...

Rsanders24 · 11-25-2019, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1198953167406452736

I guess it time to rest him for the playoffs...was hoping we would have him back for 49ers but that doesnt look like it's going to happen.

He's good to miss about 6 games a season so I guess it's right on par...great talent when healthy. I am surprised by how well Easton has been playing considering he wasnt even active at the beginning of the season.

We cant afford to lose anyone else on the line.

Rsanders24 · 11-25-2019, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

A good football business argument could be made to have cut Ginn, kept Cyril Grayson...

Even if he ran the correct routes and still dropped the ball he'd be an improvement over what Ginn is giving in terms of effort, results...

And Grayson really is faster than everyone else and can back it up and would likely show up for a challenge unlike Ginn...

And also contribute on special teams with returns. We wouldn't have Kamara back there if we had Grayson.

K Major · 11-25-2019, 10:09 AM

Speaking of WR's ...

How in the hell does Trequan Smith allow that corner to out jump him on that pbu? Wasn't that one of his strong points (high pointing the ball) coming out of UCF?

He's too tentatively for my taste. When the football is in the air, he needs to have the mentality that "it's mine". Go snag it man.

You either have dawg in you or not.

K Major · 11-25-2019, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Meanwhile Grayson is still out there. He's probably hungrier too.

In my mind and having watched him in training camp .. CG knew the playbook & was lining up correctly pre snap + he's a damn burner with world class speed. C'mon coach, you can't use this guy in that offense?

I know he had a few "mishaps" on covering punts @ t/camp but certainly I would have liked to see him more involved with this offense.

Anyway .. "we're on to Atlanta"

.

vpheughan · 11-25-2019, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Rookie has played well, even picking up the slack from RG Warford lately...

https://twitter.com/PFF_Saints/statu...68756707450880

AS I MENTIONED IN AUGUST

Going back to 2009, teams have drafted 14 centers in the first two rounds. Thirteen of those 14 started at least 10 games during their rookie seasons. The only one who didn't was Rodney Hudson, who started just one game but played in all 16 as a rookie with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2011. This includes Ryan Kelly of the Colts.

11-25-2019, 08:10 AM	#41
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat 4. Christiam McCaffery is giving me a headache and he will probably continue to do so for many years to come. He is a great, dynamic player. How many times did I see McCaffery release out of the backfield and there is no one within 15 yards ... If have a spy on anybody on this team McCaffery is the one. Later in the game they did a better job but after way toooo many burns jobs. Agreed however Christian did not get a 100 yards rushing on the Saints D. Only 2.9 ypc ... He simply abused us in the passing game though.

11-25-2019, 08:20 AM	#42
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Rookie has played well, even picking up the slack from RG Warford lately... Twitter Crusader, SmashMouth and MarchingOn like this.

11-25-2019, 09:13 AM	#43
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by K Major We don't have the luxury of benching him. But many were content that this team does not need a #2, 3 or hell #4 WR. There is Michael Thomas & a bunch of bodies running around at WR. Cook has shown up though at the TE position. Meanwhile Grayson is still out there. He's probably hungrier too. Rsanders24 and jeanpierre like this.

11-25-2019, 09:25 AM	#44
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers 7. Josh Hill is a great blocker in the running game. He is the type of player that flies under the radar but is really important on a roster. -- YES. and we have a number of guys like him, average fans dont know, who make a huge difference. 9. I'm so glad our kicker is Wil Lutz and not Joey Slye. -- Best K we've had since Morten.

11-25-2019, 09:33 AM	#45
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Meanwhile Grayson is still out there. He's probably hungrier too. A good football business argument could be made to have cut Ginn, kept Cyril Grayson... Even if he ran the correct routes and still dropped the ball he'd be an improvement over what Ginn is giving in terms of effort, results... And Grayson really is faster than everyone else and can back it up and would likely show up for a challenge unlike Ginn... SmashMouth likes this.

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11-25-2019, 09:34 AM	#46
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,471	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1198953167406452736 I guess it time to rest him for the playoffs...was hoping we would have him back for 49ers but that doesnt look like it's going to happen. He's good to miss about 6 games a season so I guess it's right on par...great talent when healthy. I am surprised by how well Easton has been playing considering he wasnt even active at the beginning of the season. We cant afford to lose anyone else on the line.

11-25-2019, 09:35 AM	#47
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,471	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by jeanpierre A good football business argument could be made to have cut Ginn, kept Cyril Grayson... Even if he ran the correct routes and still dropped the ball he'd be an improvement over what Ginn is giving in terms of effort, results... And Grayson really is faster than everyone else and can back it up and would likely show up for a challenge unlike Ginn... And also contribute on special teams with returns. We wouldn't have Kamara back there if we had Grayson. K Major and MarchingOn like this.

11-25-2019, 10:09 AM	#48
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Speaking of WR's ... How in the hell does Trequan Smith allow that corner to out jump him on that pbu? Wasn't that one of his strong points (high pointing the ball) coming out of UCF? He's too tentatively for my taste. When the football is in the air, he needs to have the mentality that "it's mine". Go snag it man. You either have dawg in you or not.

11-25-2019, 10:21 AM	#49
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Meanwhile Grayson is still out there. He's probably hungrier too. In my mind and having watched him in training camp .. CG knew the playbook & was lining up correctly pre snap + he's a damn burner with world class speed. C'mon coach, you can't use this guy in that offense? I know he had a few "mishaps" on covering punts @ t/camp but certainly I would have liked to see him more involved with this offense. Anyway .. "we're on to Atlanta" .

11-25-2019, 10:28 AM	#50
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,499	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by jeanpierre Rookie has played well, even picking up the slack from RG Warford lately... https://twitter.com/PFF_Saints/statu...68756707450880 AS I MENTIONED IN AUGUST Going back to 2009, teams have drafted 14 centers in the first two rounds. Thirteen of those 14 started at least 10 games during their rookie seasons. The only one who didn't was Rodney Hudson, who started just one game but played in all 16 as a rookie with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2011. This includes Ryan Kelly of the Colts.
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