Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers

spkb25 · 11-25-2019, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

This one...

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...74085720600576

Notice there are two Williams getting smoked; PJ's not a normal starter, but Mr. Marcus has had a 90.0+ PFF grade and should never have allowed that WR to get behind him...

Now if you go back and watch the play on NFLN, Marcus commits, then Allen keys off of that bite and goes the other way, catching Mr. Marcus out of position - just as I stated in my post...

And if you hear Romo's analysis, he tells you exactly what happened...

PJ bit.

blackangold · 11-25-2019, 01:43 PM

Another take away from me, that I haven’t seen listed...

Drew’s arm looks healthy right now. The zip on the ball was there and surprisingly he was able to throw the deep ball. Unfortunately Ginn blew both deep passes but they were good balls from Drew.

That’s a big difference from last year. This time last year you could see the zip start to fade from Drew’s passes.

Rugby Saint II · 11-25-2019, 02:59 PM

I for one don't hold Cams penalty against him. He was punching at the ball and missed. On the next play a defender attempted to punch it out and Aikman pointed it out. The defense is opportunistic and we have punched out several balls this year. If anything I put that on the refs going after us because I'm not even sure he made contact.

ChrisXVI · 11-25-2019, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Another take away from me, that I haven’t seen listed...

Drew’s arm looks healthy right now. The zip on the ball was there and surprisingly he was able to throw the deep ball. Unfortunately Ginn blew both deep passes but they were good balls from Drew.

That’s a big difference from last year. This time last year you could see the zip start to fade from Drew’s passes.

Absolutely. That first one went about 60 yards. Very happy to see the old boy still has it.

TheOak · 11-26-2019, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

We don't have the luxury of benching him.

But many were content that this team does not need a #2, 3 or hell #4 WR.

There is Michael Thomas & a bunch of bodies running around at WR. Cook has shown up though at the TE position.

Help me with this one brother. I understand what you are thinking but not sure you have thought it through?

Ginn is a speed guy, that’s why he’s on the roster, problem is that he isn’t a hands receiver and nearly all of his catches are body catches. Now run through the mechanics in your head, long ball.... how in the **** do we have a body catching speed guy.... how do you hit a body catcher in stride with a long ball? I’m not completely convinced Drew isn’t aware of this and shorts him on occasion to force a body catch. Ginn should be limited to crossing routes where he can get separation and body catch.

All of that said, if he can’t catch then why can’t you bench him? It’s not like we need his hands.

TheOak · 11-26-2019, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I for one don't hold Cams penalty against him. He was punching at the ball and missed. On the next play a defender attempted to punch it out and Aikman pointed it out. The defense is opportunistic and we have punched out several balls this year. If anything I put that on the refs going after us because I'm not even sure he made contact.

Agreed it was an awkward I’ll timed jab at the ball. If not he punches like a girl lol.

11-25-2019, 01:31 PM	#51
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by jeanpierre This one... https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...74085720600576 Notice there are two Williams getting smoked; PJ's not a normal starter, but Mr. Marcus has had a 90.0+ PFF grade and should never have allowed that WR to get behind him... Now if you go back and watch the play on NFLN, Marcus commits, then Allen keys off of that bite and goes the other way, catching Mr. Marcus out of position - just as I stated in my post... And if you hear Romo's analysis, he tells you exactly what happened... PJ bit.

11-25-2019, 01:43 PM	#52
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Another take away from me, that I haven’t seen listed... Drew’s arm looks healthy right now. The zip on the ball was there and surprisingly he was able to throw the deep ball. Unfortunately Ginn blew both deep passes but they were good balls from Drew. That’s a big difference from last year. This time last year you could see the zip start to fade from Drew’s passes. dizzle88, SaintsBro, ChrisXVI and 1 others like this.

11-25-2019, 02:59 PM	#53
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers I for one don't hold Cams penalty against him. He was punching at the ball and missed. On the next play a defender attempted to punch it out and Aikman pointed it out. The defense is opportunistic and we have punched out several balls this year. If anything I put that on the refs going after us because I'm not even sure he made contact. saintfan likes this.

11-25-2019, 03:20 PM	#54
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by blackangold Another take away from me, that I haven’t seen listed... Drew’s arm looks healthy right now. The zip on the ball was there and surprisingly he was able to throw the deep ball. Unfortunately Ginn blew both deep passes but they were good balls from Drew. That’s a big difference from last year. This time last year you could see the zip start to fade from Drew’s passes. Absolutely. That first one went about 60 yards. Very happy to see the old boy still has it.

11-26-2019, 03:38 AM	#55
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by K Major We don't have the luxury of benching him. But many were content that this team does not need a #2, 3 or hell #4 WR. There is Michael Thomas & a bunch of bodies running around at WR. Cook has shown up though at the TE position. Help me with this one brother. I understand what you are thinking but not sure you have thought it through? Ginn is a speed guy, that’s why he’s on the roster, problem is that he isn’t a hands receiver and nearly all of his catches are body catches. Now run through the mechanics in your head, long ball.... how in the **** do we have a body catching speed guy.... how do you hit a body catcher in stride with a long ball? I’m not completely convinced Drew isn’t aware of this and shorts him on occasion to force a body catch. Ginn should be limited to crossing routes where he can get separation and body catch. All of that said, if he can’t catch then why can’t you bench him? It’s not like we need his hands.
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11-26-2019, 03:39 AM	#56
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I for one don't hold Cams penalty against him. He was punching at the ball and missed. On the next play a defender attempted to punch it out and Aikman pointed it out. The defense is opportunistic and we have punched out several balls this year. If anything I put that on the refs going after us because I'm not even sure he made contact. Agreed it was an awkward I’ll timed jab at the ball. If not he punches like a girl lol. Danno and cmike like this.

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