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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by dam1953 For years Brees has made average to good receivers look great. This year we're seeing the reverse, where bad receivers are making it look like Brees' age is starting to take its toll, when that isn't ...

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Old 12-03-2019, 01:46 PM   #41
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Re: Wide Reciever

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For years Brees has made average to good receivers look great. This year we're seeing the reverse, where bad receivers are making it look like Brees' age is starting to take its toll, when that isn't the case.

Seems like we are always missing a critical piece. For years there weren't many holes in the O, but the D looked like a sieve. We were setting records on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately, the defensive records were the type you don't want to own.

Once the D line came around we couldn't find a corner. Now that the D has plugged most of the holes, the O only has one reliable receiver. Thank God he's the best in the NFL.

As a Saints fan, this is totally frustrating. It has to be driving Brees crazy.
I find it interesting that the Patriots are having a very similar problem. Lights out on D, good special teams however only one WR you can count on in Julian E.
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Old 12-03-2019, 01:47 PM   #42
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We don’t need another CGM. All we need are guys that can catch da da*n ball. Including this season Drew has 5 of the top 6 completion% seasons in NFL history. He ain’t the problem, drops are. When you watch teams around the league, players aren’t dropping passes that hit them square in the hands.
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Old 12-03-2019, 03:53 PM   #43
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We donít need another CGM. All we need are guys that can catch da da*n ball. Including this season Drew has 5 of the top 6 completion% seasons in NFL history. He ainít the problem, drops are. When you watch teams around the league, players arenít dropping passes that hit them square in the hands.


Totally agreed we need a better than ok cook we need a guy thatís all in.


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Old 12-03-2019, 05:46 PM   #44
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Many may disagree with me but we have the best hands/WR coach in the NFL in Curtis Johnson. When he returned to the Saints we started catching balls again and making receivers from free agents and late round draft picks. When Curtis Johnson returned, he's part (and I mean part) of the reason we stopped the 7-9 seasons.

I think Cook's inconsistency hurts, and same for Tedd Ginn, Jr, but I would argue that Tedd Ginn is over the hill. Time to retire.

Would love to have kept Ben Watson one more season.

It just goes to show you even with the best WR coach in the business, these fools are dropping dimes hitting the palms of both hands.

We need a free agent injection.
I don't think Dez Bryant has recovered fully from his injury (it can take years). We'll probably put Tayson Hill at WR, but we need more..... and why don't we play Hill more?? I can't believe we clinched division and playoff birth and I'm this frustrated - dropped balls are getting ridiculous.
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:05 PM   #45
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Latavius Murray, our #2 RB, has more catches than any WR not named Michael Thomas.
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:06 PM   #46
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Latavius Murray, our #2 RB, has more catches than any WR not named Michael Thomas.


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Old 12-04-2019, 05:06 PM   #47
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I'll leave it here ...

Can anyone honestly say you're comfortable with the Saints chances if say the 49ers or Vikings can take away MT13 and our running game struggles against a stout front? How will the Saints move the ball then without a capable receiver who can catch and get reasonable separation?? Cook, Ginn and Tre have yet to deliver consistently.

This offense has performed well, however it would be better served with a competent #2 opposite CGM. He'd have even more opportunities without bracket coverage.


It is what it is ... I'm just a arm chair GM but I surely hope the Saints front office/ scouts are targeting a WR in the 2020 draft and not un drafted guys who will need year(s) to develop.
This! We fans tend to have short memories. It's almost like everyone forgot what happened the second time we played the rams last year in the NFC championship game (no I'm not talking about the blown call). I'm talking how they put a bigger corner on Michael Thomas and doubled him whenever they could to force other receivers to beat us. That's the only reason that game ended up being close. Drew was forced to hold on to the ball longer with CGM being bracketed and no one else could consistently get separation.

Another wideout isn't necessarily to try to balance out the offense and take targets away from CGM but rather when CGM isn't an option due to coverage Brees has another outlet to go to other than Kamara out the backfield.

If for whatever reason we didn't pick up another playmaker like Dez that can at least draw attention we better commit to running the ball like crazy with Kamara/Murray. If we at least do that we can get other guys open down the field off the play action.
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This! We fans tend to have short memories. It's almost like everyone forgot what happened the second time we played the rams last year in the NFC championship game (no I'm not talking about the blown call). I'm talking how they put a bigger corner on Michael Thomas and doubled him whenever they could to force other receivers to beat us. That's the only reason that game ended up being close. Drew was forced to hold on to the ball longer with CGM being bracketed and no one else could consistently get separation.



Another wideout isn't necessarily to try to balance out the offense and take targets away from CGM but rather when CGM isn't an option due to coverage Brees has another outlet to go to other than Kamara out the backfield.



If for whatever reason we didn't pick up another playmaker like Dez that can at least draw attention we better commit to running the ball like crazy with Kamara/Murray. If we at least do that we can get other guys open down the field off the play action.


The majority on this topic agrees ,if we were the jury against Payton place we would slap him upside his head to get a grip/ wr


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Old 12-04-2019, 05:19 PM   #49
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Well, Kirkwood's not coming back this year

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2019...jured-reserve/

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Old 12-04-2019, 05:23 PM   #50
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I'll tell you what other team is having serious WR troubles - Patriots. All they have is Edelman and Watson at TE.

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