No French Quarter visits for A-Mac

CheramieIII · 08-02-2005, 05:54 PM

It appears that this kid knows how to win a starting job in more ways than one!

TheGambler · 08-02-2005, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

The Gambler, is your name, per chance, Billy? Just wondering.

My other thought is, why did you bring up Jake? Seeing as how you are new here, or new to posting, it's interesting to note that you would bring up Jake in a thread about A-Mac. Hhhmmm...

No, I'm not some former poster assuming a new identity or whatever........I've actually been reading these forums since last year. Believe it or not, people don't always sign up to post the minute they start reading forums.

Saint_LB · 08-02-2005, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

The Gambler, is your name, per chance, Billy? Just wondering.

My other thought is, why did you bring up Jake? Seeing as how you are new here, or new to posting, it's interesting to note that you would bring up Jake in a thread about A-Mac. Hhhmmm...

I think you nailed it, Whodi.

RockyMountainSaint · 08-03-2005, 01:50 AM

Quote:
Surely he would get more respect as a kicker! Then everyone will be happy!

That all depends. Will he ever kick at the wrong uprights? Will he laugh about it? LMAO.

WhoDat, that could possibly be the "AB Hater" Quote of the Year so far.
Nice setup by Memnoch TP. Nice avatar TP.

coastalkid · 08-03-2005, 06:31 AM

I like what I hear from him....if it is truely sincere. Let's all hope and pray he gets the job done so we can say buh bye to AB

WhoDat · 08-03-2005, 09:06 AM

2. Adrian won't be QBing us unless Brooks get injured. One of the things we can say is most consistent about Brooks is the fact that, thus far, he has avoided major injuries. And Brooks will not have a dreadful year this year, so you may as well get ready to see Brooks as your starter in 2006 as well as this year.

Uh - correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Brooks supplant a veteran QB with far more experience and whose play had been much better than previous QBs' when he was still relatively unknown and inexperienced?

Bottom line - AB's cap number next year, if memory serves, will be over $8 million. If McPherson shows he can learn the system and play in it, and Brooks' numbers stay about the same, why would the Saints not at very least consider going with a guy who could probably complete 50-55% of his passes even as a first-time starter who costs half a million over a guy who completes 57% of his passes and costs $8 million?

Unless AB has a break out season this year, the decision to make a switch to A-Mac would be no different than the decision to go to Brooks 4 years ago. Yeah, you're going to have growing pains, but the guy costs considerably less and has future potential to be great, as compared to the same old inconsistency of your veteran. Plus, A-Mac is the better athlete. Those were the exact arguments made for AB over Blake 4 years ago - why do you think that they can't be made again?

TheGambler · 08-03-2005, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat

Uh - correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Brooks supplant a veteran QB with far more experience and whose play had been much better than previous QBs' when he was still relatively unknown and inexperienced?

UHHHHHH, you are correct, yes. But would Brooks have gotten a shot if Blake didn't get injured? Unlikely. That was my whole point...........Brooks has avoided injury, and thus will not be pulled out of the lineup unless he plays horrible.

My initial post wasn't directed towards any 1 person in particular. I just get annoyed when we haven't even started the season yet......and still, I'm reading stuff such as "hopefully we can get Brooks out of there".....and "how soon can we expect A-Mac to run Brooks off", etc.

Somehow, a few of you have fallen under the mistaken impression that things are going to magically turn around if #2 is out of the equation. "Oh, but we've seen what Brooks can do, why not give someone else a shot?" will be the argument. You're damn right we've seen what Brooks can do. We've seen Brooks play damn near unstoppable football when he's hot. And yes, we've seen him play mediocre when he's cold. But I really think Aaron Brooks turned a corner in that Carolina game last year. Remember in previous years, when there would be a crucial, "must win and get in" game.........and the Saints would always lose it, partially due to bad play by Brooks? Well last year that wasn't the case. We THOUGHT only had to beat Carolina to get in, and so did most of the Saints. Brooks went out and put together a fine game....probably one of his most "complete" games as a pro. He threw the ball out of bounds and took the punt when things werne't there. He scrambled when he needed to. He played like a leader in that game. Even one of the announcers in that game said it: AARON BROOKS IS PLAYING LIKE A MAN THAT WANTS TO GO TO THE PLAYOFFS.

If Aaron comes out and has a sub-par year, then I will concede to what all of your are saying. But look at this way: If another QB comes in, and we have 8-8 or 9-7 seasons (or worse)....then what have we really gained?

WhoDat · 08-03-2005, 11:03 AM

well, first of all, it depends on why we went 8-8 or 9-7, but assuming for a moment that AB has another year like the last 4, then by throwing A-Mac in there then we at least have potential for improvement. Sure, it's a risk... but any change in personnel is.

Also, I understand your argument that without Blake being hurt we probably never would have known about AB. Fine. Blake's injury was the thing that gave AB a shot. I'm saying that AB's inconsistency and huge cap number could be the things that give A-Mac a shot... assuming the kid progresses, which none of us can speak to right now.

08-02-2005, 06:01 PM	#12
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Originally Posted by saintswhodi The Gambler, is your name, per chance, Billy? Just wondering. My other thought is, why did you bring up Jake? Seeing as how you are new here, or new to posting, it's interesting to note that you would bring up Jake in a thread about A-Mac. Hhhmmm... No, I'm not some former poster assuming a new identity or whatever........I've actually been reading these forums since last year. Believe it or not, people don't always sign up to post the minute they start reading forums.
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08-02-2005, 06:36 PM	#13
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by saintswhodi The Gambler, is your name, per chance, Billy? Just wondering. My other thought is, why did you bring up Jake? Seeing as how you are new here, or new to posting, it's interesting to note that you would bring up Jake in a thread about A-Mac. Hhhmmm... I think you nailed it, Whodi.
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08-03-2005, 01:50 AM	#14
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Quote: Surely he would get more respect as a kicker! Then everyone will be happy! That all depends. Will he ever kick at the wrong uprights? Will he laugh about it? LMAO. WhoDat, that could possibly be the "AB Hater" Quote of the Year so far. Nice setup by Memnoch TP. Nice avatar TP.

08-03-2005, 09:06 AM	#16
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	2. Adrian won't be QBing us unless Brooks get injured. One of the things we can say is most consistent about Brooks is the fact that, thus far, he has avoided major injuries. And Brooks will not have a dreadful year this year, so you may as well get ready to see Brooks as your starter in 2006 as well as this year. Uh - correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Brooks supplant a veteran QB with far more experience and whose play had been much better than previous QBs' when he was still relatively unknown and inexperienced? Bottom line - AB's cap number next year, if memory serves, will be over $8 million. If McPherson shows he can learn the system and play in it, and Brooks' numbers stay about the same, why would the Saints not at very least consider going with a guy who could probably complete 50-55% of his passes even as a first-time starter who costs half a million over a guy who completes 57% of his passes and costs $8 million? Unless AB has a break out season this year, the decision to make a switch to A-Mac would be no different than the decision to go to Brooks 4 years ago. Yeah, you're going to have growing pains, but the guy costs considerably less and has future potential to be great, as compared to the same old inconsistency of your veteran. Plus, A-Mac is the better athlete. Those were the exact arguments made for AB over Blake 4 years ago - why do you think that they can't be made again?
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08-03-2005, 10:37 AM	#17
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Originally Posted by WhoDat Uh - correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Brooks supplant a veteran QB with far more experience and whose play had been much better than previous QBs' when he was still relatively unknown and inexperienced? UHHHHHH, you are correct, yes. But would Brooks have gotten a shot if Blake didn't get injured? Unlikely. That was my whole point...........Brooks has avoided injury, and thus will not be pulled out of the lineup unless he plays horrible. My initial post wasn't directed towards any 1 person in particular. I just get annoyed when we haven't even started the season yet......and still, I'm reading stuff such as "hopefully we can get Brooks out of there".....and "how soon can we expect A-Mac to run Brooks off", etc. Somehow, a few of you have fallen under the mistaken impression that things are going to magically turn around if #2 is out of the equation. "Oh, but we've seen what Brooks can do, why not give someone else a shot?" will be the argument. You're damn right we've seen what Brooks can do. We've seen Brooks play damn near unstoppable football when he's hot. And yes, we've seen him play mediocre when he's cold. But I really think Aaron Brooks turned a corner in that Carolina game last year. Remember in previous years, when there would be a crucial, "must win and get in" game.........and the Saints would always lose it, partially due to bad play by Brooks? Well last year that wasn't the case. We THOUGHT only had to beat Carolina to get in, and so did most of the Saints. Brooks went out and put together a fine game....probably one of his most "complete" games as a pro. He threw the ball out of bounds and took the punt when things werne't there. He scrambled when he needed to. He played like a leader in that game. Even one of the announcers in that game said it: AARON BROOKS IS PLAYING LIKE A MAN THAT WANTS TO GO TO THE PLAYOFFS. If Aaron comes out and has a sub-par year, then I will concede to what all of your are saying. But look at this way: If another QB comes in, and we have 8-8 or 9-7 seasons (or worse)....then what have we really gained?
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coastalkid 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 287	I like what I hear from him....if it is truely sincere. Let's all hope and pray he gets the job done so we can say buh bye to AB

08-03-2005, 11:03 AM	#18
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	well, first of all, it depends on why we went 8-8 or 9-7, but assuming for a moment that AB has another year like the last 4, then by throwing A-Mac in there then we at least have potential for improvement. Sure, it's a risk... but any change in personnel is. Also, I understand your argument that without Blake being hurt we probably never would have known about AB. Fine. Blake's injury was the thing that gave AB a shot. I'm saying that AB's inconsistency and huge cap number could be the things that give A-Mac a shot... assuming the kid progresses, which none of us can speak to right now.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"