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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; If you're a fan of football, it was a great game. Yeah, you could point to a ref call and a few plays here and there, but we'll get them when it counts most, later in the playoffs. We were ...

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Old 12-08-2019, 03:32 PM   #1
 
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Observations from tough close loss to the Whiners

If you're a fan of football, it was a great game.

Yeah, you could point to a ref call and a few plays here and there, but we'll get them when it counts most, later in the playoffs. We were the first team to clinch a division. Whiners defense is good, but not that good if they allowed all these points.

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Old 12-08-2019, 03:36 PM   #2
 
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:38 PM   #3
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-Kamara fumbled and gifted them 7, he did nothing to make it up for it, guy is obviously injured or doesnt care anymore

-As Per we score lightening quick and our D gives away the lead late, year after year, it never changes

Live by the Blitz, Die by the Blitz - Allowing a huge late completion to a TE must be in our DNA

Payton going for 2 early killed us, that FG kick would have been for the tie, not the win if Payton played smart
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:45 PM   #4
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You score 46 points, have 161 special teams yards (Deonte Harris was huge), no INTs by Brees... you should WIN at this level.

Sean Payton continues to run Kamara in the ground. And please stop the Kamara not himself nonsense. He's been force fed and defenders are keying in on him. This is ELiTE football. You can't out run everyone. Why not use Murray who has been terrific all year ?? Stop force feeding AK!!! Pete or someone else needs to tell Payton it's ok to hand the ball off to Murray. Remember how we over used Jimmy Graham, throwing into triple coverage? Same thing now with AK.

Our defense .. specifically the secondary played poorly today.

We let this one get away ... winnable game but you'll have to deal with the Niners again if you want to get to where you want to be in late January.

Disappointing finish but we gotta get over this game and move on. We'll get another chance and hopefully with Cook, Klein and Kiko.

I'm still a believer and Who Dat !

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Old 12-08-2019, 03:45 PM   #5
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Came down to the refs. Again. If you don't agree your're not paying attention.
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:50 PM   #6
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1. CGJ had his worst game as a pro. 2 stupid penalties to extend a drive that leads to a TD and then he is the one who seems to lose Kittle in coverage.

2. Having Armstead back was huge for the O-line. They did a great job protecting Brees against a really good defence.

3. This might have been Brees best game of the year. 29/40 for 349yds and 5 TDs finding nine different receivers.

4. Jared Cook looked spectacular to start the game having the type of Impact we signed him for. Losing him to a concussion was hard to overcome.

5. I think the D-line did a good job overall. 3 sacks and pretty god pressure throughout. Where they get in trouble is when they abandon their rushing lanes allowing the QB to scramble for yards.

6. Alvin Kamara seems like he isn't fully 100%. He shows some flashes and then he just disappears for long stretches.

7. Good to see Smith back catching passes and getting a TD but I would have liked for him to show more fight on that "no call" on the fake punt.

8. We really missed Alonso and Klein out there. Robertson looked rusty and had a couple missed tackles.

9. If SP wants to keep defences honest when putting Hill back at the QB position he needs to start mixing it up. It can't be run to the outside or trying to throw a bomb every time. Have him sprint out and throw a short pass to make the defence hesitate. Or just hit a slant from the pocket.

10. Harris had a great first half returning the football. It seems like they started to kick it away from him and I can understand why.

W.T. Sherman is my favorite General. After all he did order Atlanta to be burned to the ground.
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:53 PM   #7
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It's a shame that Dean Blandino doesn't understand the holding rule on passes in punt formation. It doesn't work like other passes. On other plays, you have holding before the pass and pass interference afterwards. On punts though, that PI isn't there, but that doesn't mean you can't hold during the pass. If the pass is thrown out of the punt formation, holding can occur at any time... even when the ball is in the air, which is what happened. Horrible understanding of the rules, and the refs suck.
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:57 PM   #8
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Not surprised or disappointed, I thought we’d lose this one going into it. However, I thought it would be a struggle offensively but it was our defense that lost it.

Oh well, unless something crazy happens we are likely the 3 seed. Unfortunately our defense has regressed a ton through the year, so I don’t think we make it far in the playoffs.
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:58 PM   #9
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This game wasn't determined by the players. THis game, like so many others, was determined by the refs. THis is getting old as hell. Roger has ruined NFL football. This is a league directive. But for bull**** calls, the Saints win this game.
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:59 PM   #10
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-scored plenty to win today....
-Shanahan is the new Payton
-injuries to the LB’s was huge, was noticeable today
-secondary stunk,
-going for the 2pt conversion was dumb
-going for fake punt, really dumb after we had just turned momentum, and we have arguably the best punter in football.
-Everyone except Payton can see Murray is more valuable than Kamara right now.
-Kamara is not right, right now.
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