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TallySaint 08-04-2005 07:22 AM

Battle for Saints QB Spot
 
Duo coming up zero in battle for No. 3 QB

Kingsbury may hold edge because of his experience

Thursday, August 04, 2005 - Jeff Duncan, Times-Picayune

So far, not so good in the battle between Kliff Kingsbury and Adrian McPherson to be the Saints' third-string quarterback.

The early returns have been less than stellar for both young quarterbacks during the first week of training camp. Each has struggled with passing accuracy and command of the offense.

Starter Aaron Brooks continues to have a strong camp, and Todd Bouman maintains his grip on the backup spot, but the No. 3 job remains unsettled.

For the time being, Kingsbury appears to have the upper hand. He and McPherson are splitting reps in practice, but Kingsbury gets the first call in most drills.

As is often the case with third- and fourth-stringers, the practice reps are limited. On Wednesday, Kingsbury and McPherson each took a snap during a team drill, and Brooks and Bouman each received four snaps. Later, Kingsbury worked an entire series in a situational two-minute drive, and McPherson was limited to a couple of snaps.

Story continues...
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Tobias-Reiper 08-04-2005 08:00 AM

RE: Battle for Saints QB Spot
 
WOW! One whole snap!!!! ..be careful there, don't want to get Adrian injured in training camp...

Euphoria 08-04-2005 09:48 AM

RE: Battle for Saints QB Spot
 
I am not buying this...

Bouman unless does something special he is gone. AM will not be cut if nothing else you keep him as third qb. Using a draft pick on him this year and there is special attention towards him for his talent... he stays. Kingsbury, is a decent youg QB and making vast improvements. I think you have to keep him.

papz 08-04-2005 10:00 AM

RE: Battle for Saints QB Spot
 
Kingsbury sounds like Danny Wuerffel to me... accuracy and no arm strength. It's kind of weird... I think I'm actually the only person who likes Bouman. I guess what I saw of him while he was spot starting for Culpepper in 2001 made me a fan of his. If you saw those three games, I'm pretty sure you would to.

TallySaint 08-04-2005 10:04 AM

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Bouman unless does something special he is gone.

Hmm... Me thinks you probably have to keep him. An "experienced" back-up. We should probably be thinking about a reserve QB as well as those in development.

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Euphoria 08-04-2005 10:16 AM

I saw the games with Bouman and I was excited he came here but he isn't a young pup anymore and he hasn't performed here in NO since. We got suckered into getting him... experience??? Yeah experiance at being a back up! I'd rather have the unknown and developing behind Brooks. Don't under-estimate Kingsbury, he had a good camp and has experiance at being a back up as well as Bouman, lol. Kingsbury is younger and still developing, Bouman is done, time to part ways.

No one says Kingsbury has no arm... he has the skill, size, and is progressing... had a great camp last year!!!

TallySaint 08-04-2005 10:21 AM

Understood.

If we face a reality of Brooks going down, perhaps many will be singing a different tune on who should fill in. Perhaps not. One of the younger guys may very well be an answer. Just a thought.

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saintswhodi 08-04-2005 10:25 AM

Well, the Pats had Rohan Davey backing up Brady for a while. That's pretty inexperienced, although I think Davey can ball. We won't be the first team to do it if we had to.

WhoDat 08-04-2005 10:42 AM

I think the sad reality is that Brooks will start and Bouman will be the number two. I don't like it, but I think that's how it is. Thus, the real question is - who ends up on the practice squad? KK or AM? KK is probably a better QB right now, but AM has to potential to be great, and if he develops quickly, he could become the better QB by mid-year.

SaintFanInATLHELL 08-04-2005 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat
I think the sad reality is that Brooks will start and Bouman will be the number two. I don't like it, but I think that's how it is. Thus, the real question is - who ends up on the practice squad? KK or AM? KK is probably a better QB right now, but AM has to potential to be great, and if he develops quickly, he could become the better QB by mid-year.

The only thing in the article that worried me was that the 4th guy would have to "clear waivers". That means that some other team could theoretically snap up AM for the proverbial $100 and taking on his contract right?

SFIAH

Danno 08-04-2005 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat
I think the sad reality is that Brooks will start and Bouman will be the number two. I don't like it, but I think that's how it is. Thus, the real question is - who ends up on the practice squad? KK or AM? KK is probably a better QB right now, but AM has to potential to be great, and if he develops quickly, he could become the better QB by mid-year.

AM would never make it to the practice squad. he'd be picked up immediately upon release.

Kliff will be placed on the PS, and if AB gets hurt, we'll call Kliff up. Chances are Kliff won't be claimed. A-mac most certainly would.

There's no way they'll risk losing McPherson to another team. No way on earth. He was one of the most popular 2005 picks, and with the Lyman fiasco combined with the AB haters, they'd be blasted beyond belief by the press and the fans.

stockman311 08-04-2005 11:31 AM

I concur completly with that last post. KK may be a nice backup at some point in his career, but you can never take a chance on releasing a player with the athletic tools AM has. He is our 3rd stringer and the coaches can say all they want to the contrary now, but they know how this will turn out already.

ScottyRo 08-04-2005 12:15 PM

Unless Bouman is unexpectedly cut, KK is headed for PS or we keep 4 QBs on our 53 man roster. There's absolutely no way the FO can even think of opening AM up to being taken by another team. Even if he cleared waivers and got on the PS, he'd still be available for signing by another team at any point. I don't know if he's going to develop into a starting QB or not, but you can't risk it at this point.

Euphoria 08-04-2005 12:29 PM

The safer bet is releasing KK and getting him to the practice squad but I don't like that at all. I'd rather cut Bouman. Brooks was in the same boat when he got the starting job... unproven, and we took a chance and it proved excellent. 2005 same situation you give number 2 to either KK or AM and 3rd the other. Bouman is losing it, credit his age or whatever but no hard feelings cut him lose.

Memnoch_TP 08-06-2005 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TallySaint
Understood.

If we face a reality of Brooks going down, perhaps many will be singing a different tune on who should fill in. Perhaps not. One of the younger guys may very well be an answer. Just a thought.

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Yeah, who SHOULD fill in is O'Sullivan... But thats a horse of a different color.

Memnoch_TP 08-06-2005 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottyRo
They call it PMS because MadCow Disease was already taken.


That is the best signature I have seen in years!

FireVenturi 08-07-2005 12:28 PM

the order should be.....

1) Brooks
2)Klingsbury
3)A-mac

just cause cliff has more exp. than A-mac and Bouman should be gone cause he suks!!

AllSaints 08-07-2005 01:07 PM

I dont they will cut Bouman i just dont see that happening. AM #3 4 sure. . .

MatthewT 08-07-2005 05:21 PM

The only thing I see as a lock is AB and AMAC. They would be number 1 and 3 on the depth chart. The telling signs will be how the Saints use Bouman and Kingsbury in preseason. I think the Saints will keep Bouman, and give Kingsbury very little opportunity in preseason. The Saints may do this to limit the game film on Kingsbury, in hopes of landing him back on the practice squad. If Kingsbury gets plenty of snaps, then the Saints are maybe ready to release Bouman, especially if another place kicker holder is in the fold.

This is at best a long shot, but it's possible that J.T. O'Sullivan may get back into the mix. It is looking doubtful that he will make the Packers squad, unless they have an injury opening.


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